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  • #61
    Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

    Never said that Fury v Wilder was bigger than any fight but to say there is no interest in a 4th fight is nonsense and particularly if Joshua gets smashed. It without doubt sells out Wembley and will no doubt sell a very healthy no. of PPVs. It is a bigger fight than Ruiz and Joyce. If the fight was in China against Zhang then yes that would be bigger but I doubt that would be the case so no again. Only the Joshua fight is bigger but not if Wilder lands a big one on him.
    There is no interest except by Wilder fans.
    Fury vs AJ would be bigger regardless because it's a big British fight and they've never fought.
    Fury vs Ruiz is bigger because Ruiz is a former champ and a combination puncher. He will also have another shot at the belt which will bring in the Mexican audience.
    The winner of Zhang/Joyce will be considered a major threat. If Joyce wins he will regain his credibility and lead to major British fight against Fury.
    Zhang has developed a decent fanbase and has established himself as one of the top fighters at HW. Zhang getting a title will without a doubt bring out the Chinese audience and be a legit opponent for Fury.

    All these have risk and a gimmick that Wilder no longer has. After 3 fights Wilder has nothing else to give that these other fighters can't surpass.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by bullydean View Post

      There is no interest except by Wilder fans.
      Fury vs AJ would be bigger regardless because it's a big British fight and they've never fought.
      Fury vs Ruiz is bigger because Ruiz is a former champ and a combination puncher. He will also have another shot at the belt which will bring in the Mexican audience.
      The winner of Zhang/Joyce will be considered a major threat. If Joyce wins he will regain his credibility and lead to major British fight against Fury.
      Zhang has developed a decent fanbase and has established himself as one of the top fighters at HW. Zhang getting a title will without a doubt bring out the Chinese audience and be a legit opponent for Fury.

      All these have risk and a gimmick that Wilder no longer has. After 3 fights Wilder has nothing else to give that these other fighters can't surpass.
      Nope. If Wilder beats Joshua there will be plenty of interest. Wilder brings more danger than all of the others and if he takes out Joshua it will make big money.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

        Nope. If Wilder beats Joshua there will be plenty of interest. Wilder brings more danger than all of the others and if he takes out Joshua it will make big money.
        "Nope". A British showdown between Fury and AJ set in Wembley would be bigger than a 4th fight with Wilder.

        All the others have more interest as well.

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        • #64
          Cant believe how much nonsense warren has come up with over all the fury stuff over the last few months. Hes become a joke figure , hes going to look even more foolish if tyson kicks him in touch anyway

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post

            Fury won the first fight. It was a blinding boxing performance winning round after round similar to Crawfords but with the added complications of the Wilder knock-downs. It was one of the best examples of a home decision ever.

            Your own stats clearly demonstrate that Wilder was punching nothing most of the time and that Fury hit him more often but threw less. That's how you win a fight...... if it's scored correctly.
            The statistics do not show that. The statistics show that Wilder 1: Out Worked Fury. 2: Scored two knock-downs. 3: Inflicted more damage.

            Those are just the statistics, the actual fight? Well Fury was backed up all night 'And effectively knocked out in the last round'. To Fury's credit he got up and fought on from a knock-out blow, that is the moment he transcended his career'.

            Fury vs Wilder I was not a robbery, if it was? Fury and his team would of campaigned the decision very aggressively etc.



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            • #66
              Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

              Who wanted to see Wilder vs Fury III? Great fights or rivalries are created almost organically 'Because of the passion and competition between the fighters'.

              Of course right now? I don't really think Wilder vs Fury IIII is warranted. But if Wilder is able to get himself in contention again for a title fight? Wilder vs Fury IIII is definitively a mega fight etc.
              I thought Fury-Wilder 3 was in the contract. Isn't that why Wilder took it to court? To make sure it happens since there was pretty much no way out of it? Unless i'm wrong.

              It will be sad to see Fury-Wilder 4 since it will mean no Fury-Usyk for all the belts. We can have a HW champion hold every belt and we have to possibly see Fury-Wilder 4. It's depressing to think about

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              • #67
                Originally posted by NYG View Post

                I thought Fury-Wilder 3 was in the contract. Isn't that why Wilder took it to court? To make sure it happens since there was pretty much no way out of it? Unless i'm wrong.

                It will be sad to see Fury-Wilder 4 since it will mean no Fury-Usyk for all the belts. We can have a HW champion hold every belt and we have to possibly see Fury-Wilder 4. It's depressing to think about
                I am referring to the perception of the public and hardcore Fury fans, many were complaining about Wilder vs Fury III happening.

                Wilder vs Fury IIII is still easily in the Top-5 biggest fights that can be made in boxing right now 'And if Wilder just so happens to beat Joshua, it is pretty much in the Top-3 biggest fights that can be made within the sport'.

                The dynamic between the fighters, the story is more interesting and does have more depth than ether Joshua vs Fury & Fury vs Usyk etc.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-18-2023, 04:59 PM.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

                  I am referring to the perception of the public and hardcore Fury fans, many were complaining about Wilder vs Fury III happening.

                  Wilder vs Fury IIII is still easily in the Top-5 biggest fights that can be made in boxing right now 'And if Wilder just so happens to beat Wilder, it is pretty much in the Top-3 biggest fights that can be made within the sport'.

                  The dynamic between the fighters, the story is more interesting and does have more depth than ether Joshua vs Fury & Fury vs Usyk etc.
                  Wilder beating Wilder would be very interesting lol. Kidding, i see what you mean.

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