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Originally posted by Boxing 112 View Post
The offer to AJ last year was when Usyk all ready stated publicly i won't fight again in 2023 as i need rest. So he all ready ducked Fury for a end of 2023 fight. Then when negotiations started again for Usyk at Wembley he ducked again and pulled out of negotiations. The Furys team offer to AJ again this summer was after Usyks team had all ready pulled out of negotiations. So Usyks team ducked twice and AJ did the same both in the past year.
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Originally posted by NorvernRob View Post
If AJ did beat Wilder he’d have a significantly better resume than Fury. Warren knows that and so does everyone else because it’s fact.NYG likes this.
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Originally posted by bullydean View Post
Fury seems to be on the downslide so I wouldn't be surprised if Fury is scared of getting hurt badly in a 4th fight against Wilder but I imagine there is no money to be with a fourth fight either.
If Wilder beats AJ then Wilder will likely become the WBC mandatory and Fury will be forced to fight him again if he doesn't fight Usyk.
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Originally posted by OldTerry View Post
Fury has reached a crossroad in his professional fighting career. He can go down the road of meaningless lesser opponents and non-sensical exhibitions with martial arts fighters or overcome his fear of being in real fights. If he can't do the latter, then his legacy will be tarnished.
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Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post
Don't be silly. The first fight was never a draw. He fought his mandatory and destroyed him easily. He hasn't had to fight any other top heavyweights because the mandatory fight hasn't been called yet, and the WBC have been clear since the Whyte defence that it will be towards the end of this year. Of course they need to decide who the mandatory challenger is first......
Fury has proved as many have before him that being a champion with a high enough profile makes you big money. If anyone else wants his belt outside of the mandatory they need to make the fight. No one has because no one thinks they can beat him. Joshua's team couldn't even be bothered to discuss it preferring to 'rebuild'.
Deontay Wilder was superior to Tyson Fury in TWO of those categories which were 'Damage and Aggression'.
Deontay Wilder outworked Tyson Fury in that fight, and was the fighter who threw the highest number of punches.
Deontay Wilder landed a total of 71 punches and threw 430 punches. Fury landed 84 punches and threw 327 punches.
Factoring in that Wilder scored two knock downs, and effectively knocked Fury out in the last round. I believe those two knock-downs negate, Fury out landing Wilder by a mere 13 punches'.
Fury was only really Superior to Wilder in one category and that is with is Style. But overall Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly 'You do not win World titles away from home in that fashion'.
The fight Fury vs Wilder I was a draw, Tyson Fury 1000% did not win the fight 'Fury has achieved two wins over Wilder, and has one draw' etc.Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-16-2023, 10:19 AM.
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Originally posted by El_Mero View Post
Hahaha.....yeah, ok. He outboxed him in the 1st, then beat him up and khtfo in the 2nd, then went back n forth before putting Wilder back in his place....on his back and counted out. That's called a domination. Hate to break it to ya
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Originally posted by Goatintheboat View Post
Of course there's money in a fourth fight against Wilder particularly if he beats Joshua. What evidence is there of a downslide?
If you think Fury vs Wilder 4 is bigger than Fury vs AJ, Fury vs Zhang/Joyce, or Fury vs Ruiz then you're just a Wilder fanboy. Fury has slaughtered Wilder 2 times and most people agree Fury won the first fight.
So the public perception is that Fury beat Wilder 3 times in a row and factually Fury has KO'd Wilder 2 times in a row.
There is no interest in seeing Fury beat Wilder a 4th time.
There are bigger fights for Fury.
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Originally posted by bullydean View Post
Fury's footwork has progressively gotten worse. Whether that's because he hasn't had to change gears for a couple years or because his body just can't move like it used to is yet to be seen, but it's a downslide.
If you think Fury vs Wilder 4 is bigger than Fury vs AJ, Fury vs Zhang/Joyce, or Fury vs Ruiz then you're just a Wilder fanboy. Fury has slaughtered Wilder 2 times and most people agree Fury won the first fight.
So the public perception is that Fury beat Wilder 3 times in a row and factually Fury has KO'd Wilder 2 times in a row.
There is no interest in seeing Fury beat Wilder a 4th time.
There are bigger fights for Fury.
But to Tyson Fury's credit, he got up off the canvas from a knock-out blow 'That was the moment which effectively transcended his entire career to another level'.
Lets not over exaggerated here, Fury vs Wilder I was not the same as Lennox Lewis vs Evander Holyfield I 'Is that what you are trying to say mate?'.
Fury was backed up all night, and decked twice once badly 'You do not win World titles away from home in that fashion'.
Wilder vs Fury IIII is still a mega fight. Fury's hardcore fans complained about the 3rd fight being made, and look how that battle turned out.
And I see the same kind of behavior again from Fury's hardcore fans 'Wilder is still a threat to Tyson Fury, Wilder is a threat to most Heavyweights'.
The story and theme of the competition between Fury & Wilder, in my honest opinion is right now still more intriguing than Joshua vs Fury.
Note: Only if Anthony Joshua beats Deontay Wilder, will the Joshua vs Fury match up then become the biggest mega fight in Heavyweight boxing etc.
Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-16-2023, 05:08 PM.
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