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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: Trainer: Wilder is Coming To Send Joshua To The Next Dimension!

    Malik Scott, trainer for former WBC heavyweight champion Deontay Wilder, expects his boxer to stop Anthony Joshua in the early rounds. The two sides are hoping to finalize a deal for a high stakes showdown in the month of January in Saudi Arabia.
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  • M312
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    We talk about AJs engine, but with the way he boxes now, his engine is probably a lot better than Wilders.

    Wilder will probably go all or nothing for the early rounds.

    Its a great fight. No excuses now. Just make it.

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      This fight could very well turn into the Tyson vs Spinks of this decade, with AJ in the Spinks role.

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        #4
        Originally posted by M312
        We talk about AJs engine, but with the way he boxes now, his engine is probably a lot better than Wilders.

        Wilder will probably go all or nothing for the early rounds.

        Its a great fight. No excuses now. Just make it.
        A lot better engine than wilder? Are u serious. You're simply basing that in his gassing out against fury after rounds of punishment. AJ just needs to be put under pressure to gas, he's a mental midget compared to wilder.
        wilder will clean him out. The fires not there in AJ, he struggled against helenius hes finished as s top heavyweight

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          Originally posted by allen23

          A lot better engine than wilder? Are u serious. You're simply basing that in his gassing out against fury after rounds of punishment. AJ just needs to be put under pressure to gas, he's a mental midget compared to wilder.
          wilder will clean him out. The fires not there in AJ, he struggled against helenius hes finished as s top heavyweight
          AJs been 12 rounds for 3 of his last 4 fights.

          Wilder hasn't gone 12 rounds for years and could barely breathe/stand v Fury. For one he blamed it on his costume! Fury realised how weak he was in the 12th of the first fight which is why he walked him down. Massive props for the heart Wilder showed, he won't go down easy. But stamina he has certainly not shown at all. Been like a walking zombie from round 2/3 v Fury (abielt with serious power in si glw shots).

          Also the inactivity. Stamina is a no brainier. This goes past 6, AJ becomes a huge favourite. Early rounds Wilder is the favourite.

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            Originally posted by M312

            AJs been 12 rounds for 3 of his last 4 fights.

            Wilder hasn't gone 12 rounds for years and could barely breathe/stand v Fury. For one he blamed it on his costume! Fury realised how weak he was in the 12th of the first fight which is why he walked him down. Massive props for the heart Wilder showed, he won't go down easy. But stamina he has certainly not shown at all. Been like a walking zombie from round 2/3 v Fury (abielt with serious power in si glw shots).

            Also the inactivity. Stamina is a no brainier. This goes past 6, AJ becomes a huge favourite. Early rounds Wilder is the favourite.
            Wilder does have a LOT of defects and his wailing after getting beaten up by Fury was indeed absolutely laughable.

            However, the problem in this case is that Joshua just freezes when he's hit good. And Wilder usually does not go "all or nothing" as you wrote before. He waits for the one-definitive-punch. My su****ion is that he will find it very early in the fight.

            If Joshua ultimately manages to pull this one out, I will be very surprised - and ready, as always, to eat my slice of humble pie.

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            • Oldskoolg
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              I think most people are underestimating Joshua here. I used to think that it was likely wilder would bingo him but I really don’t like wilder’s inactivity combined with the beatings he took my
              fury. Also, wilder is 30-40 lbs smaller than Joshua and Joshua hits harder than fury does. I would also say that Joshua probably has the better chin as well due to more sturdy legs. I’d love to see wilder win but I find his chances against Joshua problematic at best considering where his career is right now

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                Originally posted by M312

                AJs been 12 rounds for 3 of his last 4 fights.

                Wilder hasn't gone 12 rounds for years and could barely breathe/stand v Fury. For one he blamed it on his costume! Fury realised how weak he was in the 12th of the first fight which is why he walked him down. Massive props for the heart Wilder showed, he won't go down easy. But stamina he has certainly not shown at all. Been like a walking zombie from round 2/3 v Fury (abielt with serious power in si glw shots).

                Also the inactivity. Stamina is a no brainier. This goes past 6, AJ becomes a huge favourite. Early rounds Wilder is the favourite.
                A major factor in Fury decking and ****ing Wilder out was fatigue 'Both fighters from round 3 on wards, looked as if they were fighting under water'.

                Both Wilder and Fury have overrated endurance, I have actually been over this before and posted statistics 'Comparing Fury & Joshua'.

                As a whole Fury & Joshua have comparable endurance, for the most part Joshua actually out works Fury in all of their biggest fights 'The ones I analysed, when this discussion was something I was engaged in'.

                People also need to factor in that Joshua has got up off the deck to win in a elite level fight vs Kiltschko 'That is a feat of endurance and durability, that Wilder has never achieved'.

                Note: Overall none of these Heavyweight's endurance is super elite, but Joshua's endurance is not as bad as people make out 'Joshua has statistically greater endurance than 95% of the Heavyweights in the division'.

                Usyk & Joyce seem to be the only Heavyweights with elite level endurance, the majority of the other Heavyweights range from Good, Satisfactory to below par in terms of endurance within this era .

                Carl Froch in a recent interview has even remarked that, it seems like these modern day Heavyweights all have below par endurance etc.
                Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 08-15-2023, 08:44 AM.

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                • Lefty0616
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                  Malik Scott isn't a good trainer, D James is, Wilder is 37, and has been inactive (he last fought 10 months ago in a very short fight).
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                  Deontay Wilder VS AJ is a toss up. There's no need to trash talk. The first to land a solid punch will most likely win by knockout.

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                    #10
                    this is still a very intriguing fight
                    but would have been better before aj got knocked out by ruiz before then i would have picked aj to beat wilder maybe even stop him
                    but now i would be shocked if aj wins and also if it goes past the 6th

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