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  • ELPacman
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    #11
    Originally posted by M312
    We talk about AJs engine, but with the way he boxes now, his engine is probably a lot better than Wilders.

    Wilder will probably go all or nothing for the early rounds.

    Its a great fight. No excuses now. Just make it.
    I can't see that. The Wilder that shows up at 216lbs has been a monster in all his fights from Rd1 to 12. The Wilder that shows up nearly 245lbs against Fury did gas out and that is to be expected. He put on so much muscle and weight for those fights, it was a detriment to his performance. Wilder was 216lbs when he knocked Helenius TFO in 1rd. Helenius weighed around 256lbs... Wilder was also 215lbs when he ktfo Ortiz who weighed around 245lbs.

    If I'm giving any details here, it is that Wilder doesn't need to weigh that heavy to ktfo his opponents and actually performances better at a lesser weight, despite his opponents outweighing him greatly.
    Last edited by ELPacman; 08-15-2023, 09:11 AM.

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    • stellen
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      #12
      I wonder when wilder starts up with his wanting a body on his resume talk? Hopefully soon then i can go back to despising him just as much as i do the big dumb gyppo.

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      • El_Mero
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        #13
        Wilder couldve already fought AJ damn near 3x but he chose to cherrypick Fury thi kin it wouldve been an easy win. I remember when he was talkin mad sh.it about the lineal title, sayin it dont mean nothin. Then gets embarassed by an out of shape fury then beat up and ktfo 2x after that.

        Tbh, ill watch the fight but it mos def lost its luster, especially on what it COULDVE been.

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        • IAMTHAT
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          #14
          Originally posted by Oldskoolg
          I think most people are underestimating Joshua here. I used to think that it was likely wilder would bingo him but I really don’t like wilder’s inactivity combined with the beatings he took my
          fury. Also, wilder is 30-40 lbs smaller than Joshua and Joshua hits harder than fury does. I would also say that Joshua probably has the better chin as well due to more sturdy legs. I’d love to see wilder win but I find his chances against Joshua problematic at best considering where his career is right now
          The If factor in this fight … but I favor AJ to win by TKO in the late rounds. AJ will land and those are powerful shots.

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          • Juan-Rambo
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            #15
            I like the way that sounds, to the next dimension lol

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            • SN!PER
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              #16
              Yeah AJ is 30 pounds heavier... but does he know how to use his weight effectively like Fury does?

              To beat Wilder you must be aggressive, rough, and relentless coming forward. If you give him too much respect, he'll put you to sleep.

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              • rickJen
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                #17
                All this Malik fella is thinking is his cut from the oil money. Lots of it....$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
                I doubt he even cares about the outcome of the fight. He's been talking about it since time immemorial.
                He and Wilder won't even take interim fights for fear of losing the winning lottery ticket. Kills me.
                Last edited by rickJen; 08-15-2023, 03:19 PM.

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                • M312
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by ELPacman

                  I can't see that. The Wilder that shows up at 216lbs has been a monster in all his fights from Rd1 to 12. The Wilder that shows up nearly 245lbs against Fury did gas out and that is to be expected. He put on so much muscle and weight for those fights, it was a detriment to his performance. Wilder was 216lbs when he knocked Helenius TFO in 1rd. Helenius weighed around 256lbs... Wilder was also 215lbs when he ktfo Ortiz who weighed around 245lbs.

                  If I'm giving any details here, it is that Wilder doesn't need to weigh that heavy to ktfo his opponents and actually performances better at a lesser weight, despite his opponents outweighing him greatly.
                  You're overthinking it/your a fan and want to believe he has good stamina. Against Fury he was tired. Helenius it didn't matter. Ortiz won every round but he's 55 and has a heart condition.

                  The weight may be an issue or not, but there's little evidence that Wilder has good stamina.

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                  • M312
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by SN!PER
                    Yeah AJ is 30 pounds heavier... but does he know how to use his weight effectively like Fury does?

                    To beat Wilder you must be aggressive, rough, and relentless coming forward. If you give him too much respect, he'll put you to sleep.
                    Fury beat him by boxing too. He just realised he didn't need to use those skills moving forward.

                    Ortiz, Szpilka , Washington etc all out boxed him a lot of the time too.

                    Truth is Wilder has faced one top boxer.... And lost 3 times.

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by M312

                      You're overthinking it/your a fan and want to believe he has good stamina. Against Fury he was tired. Helenius it didn't matter. Ortiz won every round but he's 55 and has a heart condition.

                      The weight may be an issue or not, but there's little evidence that Wilder has good stamina.
                      He was close to 250lbs for Fury. That's why he got tired.

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