"ANTHONY JOSHUA WILL KNOCK OUT DEONTAY WILDER!" - Eddie Hearn

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  • -Kev-
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    #21
    It’s the HW division, anything can happen. I’m leaning towards Wilder, but idk if it’s going to be easy. Wilder definitely has to be aware that AJ is powerful, big, younger, and out to prove something.

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    • Spray_resistant
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      #22
      Originally posted by Kzbox

      People still talking like AJ is the same fighter as pre Ruiz when he clearly isn't and probably never will be again. Any proof of the "got paid to run into that right hand" or just conspiracy/what you like to believe? i like to deal in facts see.
      He did get paid to take that little slap with the cup of the glove, great acting though.

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      • Kzbox
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        #23
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant

        He did get paid to take that little slap with the cup of the glove, great acting though.
        As i say got any proof? it's no different than me claiming AJ is on steroids because it looks like it. If it's such great acting how do you know it is indeed acting? if you watch another angle you can actually hear the punch connect and why wouldn't Hearn pay helenius for the knockout for AJ considering he looked pretty bad up until the knockout just seems like AJ fans coping with the fact AJ had to go 7 rounds with somebody Wilder demolished in 1.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Kzbox

          As i say got any proof? it's no different than me claiming AJ is on steroids because it looks like it. If it's such great acting how do you know it is indeed acting? if you watch another angle you can actually hear the punch connect and why wouldn't Hearn pay helenius for the knockout for AJ considering he looked pretty bad up until the knockout just seems like AJ fans coping with the fact AJ had to go 7 rounds with somebody Wilder demolished in 1.
          I have eyes, and saw the cup of the glove land which made a slapping sound which is what you heard. that was a dive nothing will convince me it wasn't. Just like Malik Scott who took a dive, Helenius is Wilder's buddy and sparring partner.

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            #25
            Originally posted by kafkod

            "It's Wilder next if they want to make the fight"
            OMG, please Eddie say your joking. AJ was in their for SEVEN rounds with a “NOBODY” and got hit EASILY AND DAMAGED! If he KO’d him in the first round I would definitely feel better about him fighting Wilder but even then.
            Theirs is no doubt that Wilder is going to hit AJ and their is no doubt he wont be able to take it.
            Its far easier to get a bead on AJ for wilder than with Fury cause of Fury’s great foot work. AJ is FLAT FOOTED. I predict a KO in the first 3 rounds for Wilder.

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              #26
              Its interesting to me that people are willing to write either of these fighters off. It comes down to who lands first as it always has. If Joshua somehow finds the will to let his hands go and throw combinations with real intention the odds are in AJs favor. If the AJ from last night shows up he most likely loses and badly. All this provided Wilder looks anything like his former self at all. Thats a pretty big question in itself.

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              • kafkod
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                #27
                Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                OMG, please Eddie say your joking. AJ was in their for SEVEN rounds with a “NOBODY” and got hit EASILY AND DAMAGED! If he KO’d him in the first round I would definitely feel better about him fighting Wilder but even then.
                Theirs is no doubt that Wilder is going to hit AJ and their is no doubt he wont be able to take it.
                Its far easier to get a bead on AJ for wilder than with Fury cause of Fury’s great foot work. AJ is FLAT FOOTED. I predict a KO in the first 3 rounds for Wilder.
                It's also going to be much easier for AJ to get a bead on Wilder than on Helenius, because Helenius is a much better defensive boxer than Wilder. Wilder KO'ing him faster than AJ means nothing. Helenius fought on the front foot against Wilder, trying to walk him down and bully him the way Fury did. He was boxing more cautiously against AJ and he knows how to use his height and reach to keep out of trouble when that's what he's focused on doing.
                Last edited by kafkod; 08-13-2023, 04:14 PM.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  It's also going to be much easier for AJ to get a bead on Wilder than on Helenius, because Helenius is a much better defensive boxer than Wilder. Wilder KO'ing him faster than AJ means nothing. Helenius fought on the front foot against Wilder, trying to walk him down and bully him the way Fury did. He was boxing more cautiously against AJ and he knows how to use his height and reach to keep out of trouble when that's what he's focused on doing.
                  Remember I said that this would be an easy fight for Wilder. We will see who is right.

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                  • ClubberLang82
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by kafkod



                    "You know I was offered more money to fight Joshua than I was getting to fight you." ~ Deontay wilder to Tyson Fury

                    Wilder has no title, no unbeaten record and nowhere else to go for a payday now. Time for him to stop running and his deluded fans to stop lying for him.

                    "Offers" happen and fall through all the time. Doesn't mean anything. AJ's still the biggest draw in the division, the biggest money fight. Yet the next two (Fury and Wilder) have never been able to get in the ring with him. There's a reason for that.

                    I bet they fought Usyk only because they thought he'd be too small.

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                    • kafkod
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by ClubberLang82
                      "Offers" happen and fall through all the time. Doesn't mean anything. AJ's still the biggest draw in the division, the biggest money fight. Yet the next two (Fury and Wilder) have never been able to get in the ring with him. There's a reason for that.

                      I bet they fought Usyk only because they thought he'd be too small.
                      Wilder chose to fight Fury for less money than he could have got for fighting AJ. There was a reason for that.

                      Fury fought Wilder 3 times but blatantly ducked Usyk. There was a reason for that too.

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