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  • messi807
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    #1

    Shakur should leave Arum

    “I’ll fight anybody at this point”


    Shakur should go ahead, follow suit like the likes of Floyd, Pac + Crawford & join Haymon/PBC. I think he’ll be the next big star to leave TR eventually, hopefully he doesn’t wait too long.
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    #2
    Agree. Imo he should leave after he wins the 3 LW titles TR controls.

    Once he leaves he can easily Make the Tank fight.

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    • MONGOOSE66
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      #3
      Originally posted by messi807
      “I’ll fight anybody at this point”


      Shakur should go ahead, follow suit like the likes of Floyd, Pac + Crawford & join Haymon/PBC. I think he’ll be the next big star to leave TR eventually, hopefully he doesn’t wait too long.
      In todays boxing no CORPORATION wants to loose money and they’re never going to let their fighter take UNNECESSARY RISKS. Add that to MOST of todays boxers like Tank, Charlos. Boots, Benividas, & Andrade really are scared. Why? Cause most PROFESSIONAL boxers today have NO PEDIGREE, meaning they don’t fight long as an amateur like Oscar Delahoya, Mosley, Mayweather. The amateurs teaches them how to adjust to different styles and deal with adversity. They no longer do the amateurs cause why do that when you can make money. Especially if you’re talented. Being talented with no DEPTH Of experience as a professional is a problem for most boxers. Exceptions are guys like Shakur, Teo, Loma. They WANT to take risks even when think they should wait and get more experience.
      Last edited by MONGOOSE66; 08-12-2023, 08:08 AM.

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      • RJJ-94-02=GOAT
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        #4
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        Agree. Imo he should leave after he wins the 3 LW titles TR controls.

        Once he leaves he can easily Make the Tank fight.
        I can’t see Team Tank/PBC being keen to make that happen. The risk vs reward just doesn’t make sense. Shakur is essentially too good for his own good IMO.

        I see Tank vs Shakur following a similar trajectory to Spence vs Crawford. I’d be amazed if it happens anytime soon tbh.

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          #5
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          Agree. Imo he should leave after he wins the 3 LW titles TR controls.

          Once he leaves he can easily Make the Tank fight.
          Tank isn’t going to be interested in that fight at all IMO.

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          • messi807
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            #6
            Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

            In todays boxing no CORPORATION wants to loose money and they’re never going to let their fighter take UNNECESSARY RISKS. Add that to MOST of todays boxers like Tank, Charlos. Boots, Benividas, & Andrade really are scared. Why? Cause most PROFESSIONAL boxers today have NO PEDIGREE, meaning they don’t fight long as an amateur like Oscar Delahoya, Mosley, Mayweather. The amateurs teaches them how to adjust to different styles and deal with adversity. They no longer do the amateurs cause why do that when you can make money. Especially if you’re talented. Being talented with no DEPTH Of experience as a professional is a problem for most boxers. Exceptions are guys like Shakur, Teo, Loma. They WANT to take risks even when think they should wait and get more experience.
            What did I just read lol. Boots is scared of who? It’s ironic you didn’t throw Vergil Ortiz in there, you know the guy that turned down Crawford & Ennis? .

            Charlo is scared.. yet he cleaned out a division and became undisputed and now goes up two weight classes to fight Canelo.

            Benavidez & Andrade are both scared.. yet they’re supposedly fighting each other in October on PBC. Your logic is very FAR off.

            Teo doesn’t like Top Rank. Shakur will be next to leave.
            Last edited by messi807; 08-12-2023, 09:39 AM.

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              #7
              Yes, Shakur can become a superstar once he leaves Top Rank.

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              • MONGOOSE66
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                #8
                Originally posted by messi807

                What did I just read lol. Boots is scared of who? It’s ironic you didn’t throw Vergil Ortiz in there, you know the guy that turned down Crawford & Ennis? .

                Charlo is scared.. yet he cleaned out a division and became undisputed and now goes up two weight classes to fight Canelo.

                Benavidez & Andrade are both scared.. yet they’re supposedly fighting each other in October on PBC. Your logic is very FAR off.

                Teo doesn’t like Top Rank. Shakur will be next to leave.
                You can’t see the big picture. Charla’s could have EASILY fought Canelo, Lara, Jacobs, GGG YEARS ago. They didn’t for a reason.
                Boots is fooken 30 & 0 with ZERO big players. Says something.
                Andrade is 32 & 0 with ZERO big players on his resume for a REASON. He could have easily fought so many great fighters already. He reminds me of Zurdo with his padded record who cashed in and got EASILY whipped by Bivol. What was Zurodo 40 & 0?
                Records mean NOTHING when you fight SOFT.

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                • messi807
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by MONGOOSE66

                  You can’t see the big picture. Charla’s could have EASILY fought Canelo, Lara, Jacobs, GGG YEARS ago. They didn’t for a reason.
                  Boots is fooken 30 & 0 with ZERO big players. Says something.
                  Andrade is 32 & 0 with ZERO big players on his resume for a REASON. He could have easily fought so many great fighters already. He reminds me of Zurdo with his padded record who cashed in and got EASILY whipped by Bivol. What was Zurodo 40 & 0?
                  Records mean NOTHING when you fight SOFT.
                  What does this nonsense have to do with the post lol?
                  Ortiz & Boots are around the same age with the same resumè. Talent is going reign supreme eventually, similar with Bud but he had to be patient and wait till 35 years of age. Boots probably gets his chance within the next 18 months
                  Last edited by messi807; 08-12-2023, 11:37 AM.

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                    #10
                    Only if it gets him a fight with Tank. But Tank would likely still duck him.

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