NSB: Tank wanting to drag Inoue up = bad. Crawford wanting to drag Tank up = good. Legit

[Roadblock]

Tank said that August 2 of this year. Said he'd stop Crawford within 6.

And yes, Floyd, and Stephen Espinoza, and several other people from Tank's side have been talking up Tank v Inoue. That crap is all coming from his promotion, not from anyone on Inoue's side.

It's clout chasing, plain and simple. When was the last time he fought a top 5 ranked opponent in his own weight class? There's nothing natural about inserting the name of a guy who doesn't even have a real title in the conversations about people who are 3-4 divisions away. Look how much flak Canelo is taking for fighting a guy who is two divisions away.

Clout chasing is prize fighting 101 why the surprise, only need to go back to Manny's career to see the same deal.

I seen Tank say this a long time ago, his beef with TC started 4 years ago, and the knock-out comment was first made 8mths ago, I feel your Augus is a resurface from the past.

[Roadblock]

Because Tank fighting Crawford at 147lbs would mean Tank is fighting at his 4th weightclass. Inoue fighting Tank at or near lightweight would be his 7th. Tank fighting Bud is more comparable to Inoue beating Fulton.

Reads good on paper but their weight at any given time makes what they were kinda irrelevant, Inoue looked great at 122, 8 pounds to 130 is doable, Tank can make 135 its 12 pounds to 147 that's in the Manny book , there is no way its going to work out all Kosher for them all, money is what is driving the discussion of potential fights but the sizes are possible but will have fans on both sides of the fence screaming murder, Im with Leicesterage on his point of where is the consistency with past and present posters.

[Gate keeper]

Never change, NSB. Just never change.

So if I'm a welterweight and God tells me he will destroy the planet if I don't fight a lightweight at 147, are you implying that's just as bad as Tank freely choosing to fight Inoue? Whenever the act itself is done, it should always be treated equally as bad?

Whether a person is making a trillion dollars or saving the world, who cares. We should train ourselves to always think of these scenarios in the same exact way every time. Is that the gist of your argument here?

[Amir Imam]

Beltran was for the lineal title. Meaning Crawford and Beltran were the consensus top two fighters in the lightweight division at the time of the fight. It wasn't just some random vacant alphabet soup belt. It was recognized by The Ring, Transnational Boxing Rankings Board, ESPN, BoxRec, and every other media outlet as a fight between the two best guys in the division at that point in time. As were the Postol (vacant lineal), Indongo (Crawford was lineal, Indongo was #1), and Spence (vacant lineal) fights.

How was he ranked that high? I know for sure Beltran wasn’t rated number one by BoxRec or TBRB at the time and BoxRec didn’t recognize the fight as lineal either.

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[BoxingParadigm]

Reads good on paper but their weight at any given time makes what they were kinda irrelevant, Inoue looked great at 122, 8 pounds to 130 is doable, Tank can make 135 its 12 pounds to 147 that's in the Manny book , there is no way its going to work out all Kosher for them all, money is what is driving the discussion of potential fights but the sizes are possible but will have fans on both sides of the fence screaming murder, Im with Leicesterage on his point of where is the consistency with past and present posters.

I think both fights are ******, but Tank vs Bud is less ******. That's all. It's much harder for the smaller framed guys to put on more weight which is why the extra pounds it takes to get to 147 from 135 don't matter as much as the pounds it takes to get to 135 from 122, particularly when 122 is the fourth weightclass.

[The plunger man]

Tank shouldn’t be shooting his pbc mouth off then should he....didn’t he just say he kos Crawford in 6 lol......the little hobbit should keep his mouth shut if he thinks Crawford won’t say anything back......inoue has more intelligence than go up 2 weights and fight with the top dog in boxing at the moment and he carries himself as a champion ....gimli davis has 1 brain cell and his brain should not engage his tongue if he don’t want the smoke.....get some perspective mongo

[Roadblock]

I think both fights are ******, but Tank vs Bud is less ******. That's all. It's much harder for the smaller framed guys to put on more weight which is why the extra pounds it takes to get to 147 from 135 don't matter as much as the pounds it takes to get to 135 from 122, particularly when 122 is the fourth weightclass.

I wouldn't say they ****** fights they massive money fights but there will be CWs involved no real way around it, I mean it would be very brave for Inoue to fight Tank at 130/135 and it would be very brave for Tank to fight TC at 147, I don't care where they came from Im more about where they at, its like Arnie as a 20 yr old is irrelevant to winning Mr Olympia,at 23, once the body transforms it is what it is, not what it was.

[Roadblock]

Tank shouldn’t be shooting his pbc mouth off then should he....didn’t he just say he kos Crawford in 6 lol......the little hobbit should keep his mouth shut if he thinks Crawford won’t say anything back......inoue has more intelligence than go up 2 weights and fight with the top dog in boxing at the moment and he carries himself as a champion ....gimli davis has 1 brain cell and his brain should not engage his tongue if he don’t want the smoke.....get some perspective mongo

Why this is what they do, its a part of selling themselves, he may yet fight TC at 147 who knows, its like fans cry about boxers doing what prize fighters do, mouth off or don't get noticed.

[Gate keeper]

I understand that - but the point is, he's coming across noncommittal. And NSB is not calling him out on it.

NSB trashed undisputed champion Jermell Charlo when he refused to fight his mandatories.
NSB trashed undisputed champion Devin Haney when he refused to fight his other mandatories. He at least fought one, beat the guy, NSB called it a robbery (it was close, NOT a robbery)
NSB trashed then-unified champion Canelo Alvarez for refusing to fight his mandatory.
NSB trashed then-unified champion Errol Spence for refusing to fight his mandatories.


...but when undisputed champion Terence Crawford openly refuses to fight his mandatory, who's been waiting for over a year, NSB is cool with it and says "eh, he doesn't deserve it".

Middleweight Canelo accepts a fight with (basically) a super lightweight (140) in Amir Khan, NSB criticizes him.

Welterweight (147) Errol Spence accepts a fight with lightweight (135) Mikey Garcia, NSB criticizes him.

Welterweight (147) Floyd accepts a fight with lightweight (135) Juan Manuel Marquez, NSB criticizes him.

Welterweight (147) Crawford wants to challenge a lightweight (135) in Tank Davis, NSB is like, "great fight!"

All I'm asking is for people to BE CONSISTENT.

Seems like you're just combining a whole bunch of different responses from different categories of people and then treating them as of one. And you're even picking and choosing which ones you want to combine too, while ignoring others.

For every criticism you say didn't happen, I actually did see them all over the place - both here and other websites. Once a fighter a reaches a certain level of notoriety, you're always pretty much going to have both positive and negative criticisms no matter what you do. I'm not even sure how you managed to mostly just see the ones you're mentioning.

[Amir Imam]

It depends on what you think is the quality of those guys, I think too much emphasis is placed on titles and not the fighters, many titles are won and lost by contenders not elite.

Beltran and Burns both won vacant titles after losing to Crawford. Beltran won his vacant title against a 40yr old named Moses Paulus. Burns won his against a guy named Michele Di Roco. They both lost the titles in their very next fights. You rite context matters in boxing.