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  • The Big Dunn
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    #51
    Originally posted by MulaKO

    To prove what
    I hate when fighters overstay their presence
    I think he has winnable fights there.

    But I get this. A lot of boxers couldnt go even though it was time.

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    • Smash
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      #52
      Originally posted by takenotes

      I always thought Loma was a hype job. Not sure why people thought he was pound 4 pound. .
      surely his run at the lighter weights was deserving of p4p status & he even did well at 135 and is still doing well at 135, cant see why he wouldnt be in p4p contention

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      • MulaKO
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        #53
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        I think he has winnable fights there.

        But I get this. A lot of boxers couldnt go even though it was time.
        Exactly
        I think his time has come

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #54
          Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

          Stop the games. You all insist Haney won, judges scored it for Haney. Shakur needs to chase Haney for titles instead of clout chasing Loma. Tank has been ducking Loma all these years while waiting for him to turn 40, didn't hear any protests from you that they should fight.
          Dude come on. Stop pointing to others. You felt Loma won same as Shakur. That is who he called out. Having an issue with it wreaks of something else.

          Also, dont just throw out the usual stereotypical responses. I was one of the few, regardless of race, promoter affiliation or whatever other bias one can think of, that had Haney winning.

          Clout chasing? Loma headlines cards in the MSG forum. Clout chasing would be calling out Tank.

          Haney has a fight at 140 with Prograis. No need to call him out now.

          Tank has nothing to do with this thread. Pivoting to him wreaks of some agenda.

          Now youre flat out lying. You just cant help yourself. I have been very critical of Tank for not fighting Loma.

          Your issue with this call out is being a Loma fan that doesnt want to see him lose 2 in a row. Just say that and be done.

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            #55
            Originally posted by Smash

            surely his run at the lighter weights was deserving of p4p status & he even did well at 135 and is still doing well at 135, cant see why he wouldnt be in p4p contention
            Surely not #1. People were putting him at #1 and there was no chance he was there especially after losing to Salido

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              #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Dude come on. Stop pointing to others. You felt Loma won same as Shakur. That is who he called out. Having an issue with it wreaks of something else.

              Also, dont just throw out the usual stereotypical responses. I was one of the few, regardless of race, promoter affiliation or whatever other bias one can think of, that had Haney winning.

              Clout chasing? Loma headlines cards in the MSG forum. Clout chasing would be calling out Tank.

              Haney has a fight at 140 with Prograis. No need to call him out now.

              Tank has nothing to do with this thread. Pivoting to him wreaks of some agenda.

              Now youre flat out lying. You just cant help yourself. I have been very critical of Tank for not fighting Loma.

              Your issue with this call out is being a Loma fan that doesnt want to see him lose 2 in a row. Just say that and be done.
              So now you're saying Loma isn't a big name because he headlines at MSG forum? Which is it then? Is he the top guy at 135 because some fans think he won over Haney, or is he a washed up hype job that so many of the PBC fanboys claim? You guys can't seem to make up your mind.

              By not holding Tank to the same standard you are in fact showing your bias and hypocrisy. Loma has been calling him out for years. Floyd protected him...he's too young at 23, 24, 25, etc., yet he was a title holder at 130 and PBC fans think he's the greatest fighter at 135. Why shouldn't Tank fight Loma then? Or do you think when Floyd said "Loma will be 40 eventually" is the strategy of someone who really wants to fight the best?

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                #57
                Originally posted by GhostofDempsey

                So now you're saying Loma isn't a big name because he headlines at MSG forum? Which is it then? Is he the top guy at 135 because some fans think he won over Haney, or is he a washed up hype job that so many of the PBC fanboys claim? You guys can't seem to make up your mind.

                By not holding Tank to the same standard you are in fact showing your bias and hypocrisy. Loma has been calling him out for years. Floyd protected him...he's too young at 23, 24, 25, etc., yet he was a title holder at 130 and PBC fans think he's the greatest fighter at 135. Why shouldn't Tank fight Loma then? Or do you think when Floyd said "Loma will be 40 eventually" is the strategy of someone who really wants to fight the best?
                Stop it Ghost. I responded to your point about clout chasing. Not all this you just posted.

                I surely didnt have that opinion of him. Youre making stereotypical assumptions when none are called for.

                This thread is about Stevenson and Loma. Youre clearly convinced Shakur will beat loma so youre trying to force a different topic to avoid admitting that.

                You are in fact doing the protecting when you do this.

                Tank fans are allowed to think what they want. Same as Loma fans. Why are you so angry about them liking Tank that much?

                All the best should absolutely fight each other. Those that dont should be criticized. This thread is about Stevenson calling out Loma. This would be two of the best at 135 fighting each other.

                There shouldn’t be anyone not wanting this fight unless they think Loma is too old.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by takenotes

                  Surely not #1. People were putting him at #1 and there was no chance he was there especially after losing to Salido
                  loma only made p4p 1 sometime in 2018 tho, that salido fight was in 2014, people had retired and lost form as well who were competing for it too

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by messi807

                    He suggested a couple years ago he was too big to make 130.
                    I just can't understand why he's not willing to fight Shakur for the WBC Title?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      Stop it Ghost. I responded to your point about clout chasing. Not all this you just posted.

                      I surely didnt have that opinion of him. Youre making stereotypical assumptions when none are called for.

                      This thread is about Stevenson and Loma. Youre clearly convinced Shakur will beat loma so youre trying to force a different topic to avoid admitting that.

                      You are in fact doing the protecting when you do this.

                      Tank fans are allowed to think what they want. Same as Loma fans. Why are you so angry about them liking Tank that much?

                      All the best should absolutely fight each other. Those that dont should be criticized. This thread is about Stevenson calling out Loma. This would be two of the best at 135 fighting each other.

                      There shouldn’t be anyone not wanting this fight unless they think Loma is too old.
                      You are being dishonest as usual. You think Loma should fight Shakur but not Tank. You didn't say anything when Loma was calling out Tank all these years. You went along with Floyd's narrative that he was too young, despite Floyd wanting full credit for beating a 23 year old Canelo.

                      As I already said I don't have a problem with Loma/Shakur fighting. I just don't think Loma is obligated to fight him when he is chasing a rematch with Haney for titles.

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