Comments Thread For: Shakur Stevenson Attaches The "Ducking" Label To Vasiliy Lomachenko

[GhostofDempsey]

He isnt calling Haney out because Bob is on record as saying the fight will not sell and Haney has a fight with Prograis coming up.

If Loma is still as good as you say, won the Haney fight, and is the best at 135, Shakur should be calling him out, right?


The best fighting the best is what you say you want.
Loma and Shakur would be fighting for the WBO and IBF titles Haney will drop.

Loma and TR dont want to risk losing 2 in a row. His fans like you dont want to see him lose again either, which is why youre against Shakur calling him out.

They will most likely make Loma v Kambosos and once Loma wins, then match him in a unification with Shakur.

I don't have a problem with the fight myself. I'd like to see it, but there is nothing at stake. If Shakur wins "he beat Haney's leftovers" if Loma wins, it doesn't get him a title or any closer to a rematch with Haney. In fact, if he beats Shakur, Haney likely drops his belts and stays at 140.

I still think if Loma wants to be an undisputed champion the path is at 130. The fighters at 135 have larger frames and drain down from 155 pounds or better.

[GhostofDempsey]

Man, these people here are delusional and in the deepest of denial. In what world does a young, black man get a unanimous decision over a a white boxer that was made to the best thing since sliced bread? Haney beat this man fair and square. There was no robbery. Do you mean to tell me that white privilege is a thing of the past all of a sudden? Yea, right!!!? I guess that Eminem is the best rapper of all time too, right? Yea, keep dreaming and being delusional, you idiots.

You race-obsessed clowns and the goons who like your post are part of what is ruining this sport.

[The Big Dunn]

I wish that was true cause in the end all your left with is your family
Personally I think Shakur won’t get any praise in beating old man Loma
Just wants that name on resume cause he won’t get any kind of accolades beating Haney

I agree but I find that crazy because many thought Loma beat Haney. I didnt.

I think Shakur v Haney will be better at 140. Haney cant make 135 comfortably imo.

I think Tank or Haney would be more meaningful fights than Loma for Shakur.

[Smash]

the last time loma was accused of ducking someone was haney years ago but he fought a teo on a hot streak & ended up losing, its an easy fight to make and a great fight for shakur as loma is a named guy but not so sure whats in it for loma as even if loma makes it a good close fight i dont think he will get the nod so its more tantrums for him, the cash would need to be very good i would say

[MulaKO]

I agree but I find that crazy because many thought Loma beat Haney. I didnt.

I think Shakur v Haney will be better at 140. Haney cant make 135 comfortably imo.

I think Tank or Haney would be more meaningful fights than Loma for Shakur.

Tank or Haney would make much more sense for Stevenson
Loma don’t get the fight with Haney , seems he’ll be fighting Regis , imo he should retire
And I thought he won a comfortable decision against Haney

[The Big Dunn]

I don't have a problem with the fight myself. I'd like to see it, but there is nothing at stake. If Shakur wins "he beat Haney's leftovers" if Loma wins, it doesn't get him a title or any closer to a rematch with Haney. In fact, if he beats Shakur, Haney likely drops his belts and stays at 140.

I still think if Loma wants to be an undisputed champion the path is at 130. The fighters at 135 have larger frames and drain down from 155 pounds or better.

You were adamant that Loma won. If you really believe that, Shakur should be calling him out, especially since he also had Loma winning.

Of course there is something at stake- the titles Haney vacated to fight Prograis. He only kept the WBC.

A Haney rematch likely doesn’t happen unless Loma goes up to 140. Imo he is too small for that.

Frankly, that is on Bob. He allowed Loma to avoid Haney earlier with the emeritus crap. Had the fight happened then, Haney is still at 135 and Loma could get a rematch. Delaying it put Loma in a tough spot.

Agreed, but that would not yield much income. Maybe he fights the Navarette/Valdez winner.

My guess is he goes down to 130 and fights Inoue after he cleans out 122 and wins titles at 126.

[The Big Dunn]

Tank or Haney would make much more sense for Stevenson
Loma don’t get the fight with Haney , seems he’ll be fighting Regis , imo he should retire
And I thought he won a comfortable decision against Haney

I think he should head back to 130.

[MulaKO]

I think he should head back to 130.

To prove what
I hate when fighters overstay their presence

[takenotes]

Correct! Lomachenko might have had a legitimate gripe with the refereeing in the Saludo fight but he lost to Lopez and Haney; a close fight doesn't mean a robbery, he's a serial bad loser.

Loma had a legit beef with the Salido decision but lost pretty convincingly to Teo. Haney was a 50/50 and could have gone either way IMO. I always thought Loma was a hype job. Not sure why people thought he was pound 4 pound. Also to add, I do not know why skin color is even being brought up. The guy is a sore loser plain and simple and has nothing to do with skin. Just like AJ was a sore loser when he lost to Usyk and acted like a crazy man.

[GhostofDempsey]

You were adamant that Loma won. If you really believe that, Shakur should be calling him out, especially since he also had Loma winning.

Of course there is something at stake- the titles Haney vacated to fight Prograis. He only kept the WBC.

A Haney rematch likely doesn’t happen unless Loma goes up to 140. Imo he is too small for that.

Frankly, that is on Bob. He allowed Loma to avoid Haney earlier with the emeritus crap. Had the fight happened then, Haney is still at 135 and Loma could get a rematch. Delaying it put Loma in a tough spot.

Agreed, but that would not yield much income. Maybe he fights the Navarette/Valdez winner.

My guess is he goes down to 130 and fights Inoue after he cleans out 122 and wins titles at 126.

Stop the games. You all insist Haney won, judges scored it for Haney. Shakur needs to chase Haney for titles instead of clout chasing Loma. Tank has been ducking Loma all these years while waiting for him to turn 40, didn't hear any protests from you that they should fight.