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  • BillyBoxing
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    #61
    Originally posted by vitruvian
    Perfect ending would be ...

    Charlo (WBC, WBA, IBF)
    ​​​​​​Big Charlo (weigh in at 155 and take a 5th division title at MW)
    Tzsyu (Back down to 154 to complete the undisputed at 3 weights)
    Boots (by this time Boots will have more of a claim at a shot and I along with everyone else who knows the sport knows this is his only and biggest threat left in his career can't retire without seeing it threw Bud)

    Ortiz and Thurman are the only other two remotely viable options for paydays.

    I am a huge Bud fan and don't think Boots can beat Bud but it's the only name left out there I am not a billion percent sure Bud won't embarrass. Regardless I'll buy all these PPV's.
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    Mell Charlo is fighting Canelo and will probable vacate 154 titles after getting beat and taking a ginger payday. He won't kill himself to make 154 again to fight Bud for a way smaller paycheck.

    Boots is the main challenger AT 147.

    Bud doing to Boots what PBC fighters did to him for years AT 147 " beat nobody AT 147, bla bla, bigger fights to do"

    If Bud beat Boots It might be his biggest won down the road beacause I think this kid will achieve things in the sport.

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    • champion4ever
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      #62
      Originally posted by joesaiditstrue

      it isn't ducking if he's moving up , at best they could criticize him for not defending the belts at least once.

      but if a guy moves up to fight a more difficult opponent, you can't in good faith say he's ducking. only if he stayed at 147 and just avoided Boots, that's a duck
      I agree. You just made my point. For Bud; Who turns 36 at the end of September to fight some hungry young lion like Boots at this stage of his career is pointless.

      He's been there and done that. It's almost like going backwards. Crawford is looking forward to bigger and better paydays. He could have challenged guys like Jaron Boots Ennis at Top Rank but now since he has decided to cross the street.

      He is expecting to be compensated handsomely from here on out.

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      • BillyBoxing
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        #63
        Originally posted by joesaiditstrue

        it isn't ducking if he's moving up , at best they could criticize him for not defending the belts at least once.

        but if a guy moves up to fight a more difficult opponent, you can't in good faith say he's ducking. only if he stayed at 147 and just avoided Boots, that's a duck
        Yes but Moving UP for what? Charlo Moving UP to fight Ginger for Big money, belts are going to explode in pieces all over again.

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #64
          That's the problem in boxing, once they are the face of the sport, they stop challenging themselves and go the full ****** on the paycheck road.

          And fan are fine with It.

          Bud vs Boots is the highest skilled match UP in the sport, even better than Fury vs Usyk.

          And yall happy with Bud Moving UP fighting Tim Kazzoo.

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          Last edited by BillyBoxing; 08-10-2023, 05:04 PM.

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            #65
            You tell 'em Bud! You've done your time and has paid the price. Now it's time for you to enjoy the fruits of your labor. Which is real talk.

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            • Theshotyoudontsee
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              #66
              The situation with Bud is nothing like Canelo. Bud is 36, he hasn't made spectacular money in his career. Canelo made a hundred million and has sat on the belts for years while "chasing greatness", ie looking for shot champs at higher weights, or cherry picking Bivol, who he thought he could beat....which blew up in his face. He is ducking Benavidez and that is his right, but he shouldn't squat on the belts. Regardless, Canelo has spent multiple years now ducking and refusing to relenquish the belts.

              Crawford has fought a bunch of top 10 welters, he called for the Spence fight years ago and PBC wanted him nowhere near Spence. He gets his Spence shot at 35 years, almost 36, having been ducked for years and missing out on big paydays, and he destroys Spence. His profile jumps tenfold, he now has PPV drawing power BIG time as everyone see he is a monster. He is undisputed at 147 after WAITING YEARS. And he is now supposed to fight Boots, who has only beaten C and B- fighters and has no drawing power? For who? Because Boots is such a nice guy? As others have stated, people in Boots camp knew and said that he wasn't ready for Crawford just a year or so ago.

              Boots should have already fought the other top guys at 147. With his talent he should be a draw. But apparently Boots likes looking amazing versus ****ty comp and not risking too much. Villa hit him cleanly throughout their fight. Bud would hurt him and stop him anyway. But just like Bud said, if he wins, he gets nothing but "well Boots was green". No belts, no big payday.

              This is PRIZEFIGHTING. A guy fights and makes himself a draw to make big money and to get the big fights. Ennis needs to beat an ex champ like Thurman, Stanionis, etc, and become a draw. As it is je will likely have an easier path to the belts anyway, one Bud vacates. And I feel like the massive amounts of call out from Ennis knowing Bud is moving up regardless, is mainly posturing. I don't think Ennis wants a Bud fight, to be honest. He is being loud because he knows it makes no senze for Bud and now he can say, yeah, Bud ducked me because I am so terrifying.

              It's all ridiculous. And as others have said, the old champs all fought the biggest money fights when they were at the peak of their powers. The Bud hating is unreal.
              Last edited by Theshotyoudontsee; 08-10-2023, 05:17 PM.

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                #67
                What Jaron Boots Ennis can do is to petition the IBF into forcing Bud to challenge him or vacate the title.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  That's the problem in boxing, once they are the face of the sport, they stop challenging themselves and go the full ****** on the paycheck road.

                  And fan are fine with It.

                  Bud vs Boots is the highest skilled match UP in the sport, even better than Fury vs Usyk.

                  And yall happy with Bud Moving UP fighting Tim Kazzoo.

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                  Bud about to be 36 and there's nothing wrong going up to 154

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                  • Hotsauce91
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Theshotyoudontsee
                    The situation with Bud is nothing like Canelo. Bud is 36, he hasn't made spectacular money in his career. Canelo made a hundred million and has sat on the belts for years while "chasing greatness", ie looking for shot champs at higher weights, or cherry picking Bivol, who he thought he could beat....which blew up in his face. He is ducking Benavidez and that is his right, but he shouldn't squat on the belts. Regardless, Canelo has spent multiple years now ducking and refusing to relenquish the belts.

                    Crawford has fought a bunch of top 10 welters, he called for the Spence fight years ago and PBC wanted him nowhere near Spence. He gets his Spence shot at 35 years, almost 36, having been ducked for years and missing out on big paydays, and he destroys Spence. His profile jumps tenfold, he now has PPV drawing power BIG time as everyone see he is a monster. He is undisputed at 147 after WAITING YEARS. And he is now supposed to fight Boots, who has only beaten C and B- fighters and has no drawing power? For who? Because Boots is such a nice guy? As others have stated, people in Boots camp knew and said that he wasn't ready for Crawford just a year or so ago.

                    Boots should have already fought the other top guys at 147. With his talent he should be a draw. But apparently Boots likes looking amazing versus ****ty comp and not risking too much. Villa hit him cleanly throughout their fight. Bud would hurt him and stop him anyway. But just like Bud said, if he wins, he gets nothing but "well Boots was green". No belts, no big payday.

                    This is PRIZEFIGHTING. A guy fights and makes himself a draw to make big money and to get the big fights. Ennis needs to beat an ex champ like Thurman, Stanionis, etc, and become a draw. As it is je will likely have an easier path to the belts anyway, one Bud vacates. And I feel like the massive amounts of call out from Ennis knowing Bud is moving up regardless, is mainly posturing. I don't think Ennis wants a Bud fight, to be honest. He is being loud because he knows it makes no senze for Bud and now he can say, yeah, Bud ducked me because I am so terrifying.

                    It's all ridiculous. And as others have said, the old champs all fought the biggest money fights when they were at the peak of their powers. The Bud hating is unreal.

                    All good points

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                    • rickJen
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      That's the problem in boxing, once they are the face of the sport, they stop challenging themselves and go the full ****** on the paycheck road.

                      And fan are fine with It.
                      ****** nonsense. Always blaming everybody but Boots' own team, who never showed any sign they wanted the Crawford fight.
                      Even now Bozy/Dunkin are still not filing any petition for the IBF route they chose to take, which title Bud now owns.
                      They filed petition for Spence last year and I don't see them doing the same for Crawford. Why? Your guess is as good as mine.
                      Just for once, make these people accountable for their actions.
                      Last edited by rickJen; 08-10-2023, 06:27 PM.

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