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  • #21
    Personally, I don't think it's necessary to put down Inoue or Crawford either one to appreciate their accomplishments. Those two are the obvious top guys. If Fury actually gets in the ring with Usyk and Usyk dominates and stops him, he'll be in the running too.

    It's a shame that people can't just appreciate what we've been given, getting to enjoy these two in their primes.

    I've been reflecting on these two since that great week of boxing, and I think, personally, I'm happy to put Bud as top P4P now. He's at the tail end of his career, and will likely only have a few more career defining fights. My guess would be Spence again at 154, then Charlo at 154, then retirement if he wins.

    Inoue is still in his prime, and has an opportunity to keep adding to his already stellar resume. He'll be on top of P4P in due time, and this conversation will doubtless be revisited if he beats Tapales.

    But they're in such vastly different weight classes that it's all ultimately just speculation and will always be debated by boxing historians. There's never going to be anything close to a definitive answer, and as such, there's very little reason to try to force one to be better than the other. I want to see how their resumes will finish, and how they'll stack against the ATG's when all is said.
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    • #22
      He needs more baldomirs and old washed up fighters I guess

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
        It will always be in question because there are no other greats in his divisions, I think buds resume would be hard-pressed to beat Cotto, but its not Buds fault its the era doesn't have all these transitionals from the end of one era and the new ones in the new era, last time around you Oscar Mosely Cotto Manny Canelo Floyd, all great fighters then you had another bunch that were real solid Judah Maidana etc its just the way it is and a shame the competition is not there for Bud as he is all class without a real dance partner near his ability.
        exactly how i feel. im not sure if Bud could beat Cotto at his best. I'm not convinced hes anywhere near Floyd/Oscar/Manny level at all.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by MulaKO View Post

          Not his fault there’s no hall of famers to beat
          But that don’t take away anything from what he’s accomplished
          Just had an easier route
          Funny thing is if Spence won , you guys would be praising him as the best ever for beating Bud
          Kind of like you all are doing now?
          Last edited by Gary Coleman; 08-06-2023, 03:28 PM.

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          • #25
            He's fought 3 champions in 8 years. That's pathetic. The new found hype doesn't match the resume. You got people out trying to compare him to Floyd and Pac which is ****ing laughable. He beat Spence. Okay. Good win. But that doesn't make him an ATG.
            Oracle01 Oracle01 real raw real raw like this.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

              Kind of like you all are doing now?
              Nope
              I thought he was good before the Spence fight
              No bandwagoner here

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              • #27
                No fighter has ever beaten or gained advantage over another with a resume.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by daggum View Post
                  He needs more baldomirs and old washed up fighters I guess
                  And you need a rectalectomy. That’s a medical procedure where they cut that thin muscle between your eyeballs and your a$$whole so you won’t have such a shytey outlook on life.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by 4truth View Post
                    No fighter has ever beaten or gained advantage over another with a resume.
                    In a p4p discussion, they sure as hell have. #1 criteria used when making those lists. Or at least should be.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by LeOoze View Post

                      exactly how i feel. im not sure if Bud could beat Cotto at his best. I'm not convinced hes anywhere near Floyd/Oscar/Manny level at all.
                      I didn't mean Bud couldn't beat Cotto, I meant Cotto would beat all of Buds resume, I think Bud is right up there with those guys just that his resume is not that great.

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