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  • #91
    55 Mill converts to around 620k buyers and then there is the live gate and International, not too shabby at all considering how many in here bagged the whole show.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

      No excuses, for years PBC refused to even acknowledge Bud as a champion. They locked him out. Crawford made nearly as much money staying with TR and being the top dog, achieved undisputed at 140. You're talking like an idiot cheerleader. PBC didn't build Bud's career. None of their fighters are superstars that were built from the ground up under their promotion or management. Floyd built Tank, and it took Canelo, Manny and Fury, and Ryan to make PBCs biggest fights.
      Let the truth be told; Top Rank did a horrible job of building Bud's brand and career to the mainstream casual fan. Given his talent; He should have been earning upwards to eight figures per fight and doing close to a million pay per view buys each and every time he fought under the Top Rank banner.

      That was the main reason why both he and Floyd Mayweather, Jr decided to leave Top Rank because Bob was holding them back. Floyd Mayweather had been calling for an Oscar De la Hoya bout for years just to have it fall on deaf ears as Bob simply ignored his plea. Just like he ignored Crawford's plea to fight Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence, Jr.

      Also, outside of Tyson Fury, none of the Top Rank fighters are superstars either; Which is why they never fight on pay-per-view. The closest they ever get to fighting on pay-per-view was through their ESPN + streaming app and that's a subscription based service.​
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      • #93
        Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
        Let the truth be told; Top Rank did a horrible job of building Bud's brand and career to the mainstream casual fan. Given his talent; He should have been earning upwards to eight figures per fight and doing close to a million pay per view buys each and every time he fought under the Top Rank banner.

        That was the main reason why both he and Floyd Mayweather, Jr decided to leave Top Rank because Bob was holding them back. Floyd Mayweather had been calling for an Oscar De la Hoya bout for years just to have it fall on deaf ears as Bob simply ignored his plea. Just like he ignored Crawford's plea to fight Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence, Jr.

        Also, outside of Tyson Fury, none of the Top Rank fighters are superstars either; Which is why they never fight on pay-per-view. The closest they ever got to fight on pay-per-view was through their ESPN + streaming app and that's a subscription based service.​
        Crawford was a hard sell. He wasn't a flashy trash talker, not charismatic, it was difficult to promote him to the casuals which make up a majority of PPV sales. Regardless, he made more money than any other PBC fighter outside of Spence and Wilder prior to 2023. He became undisputed at 140. Champion in 3 weight classes. He devoured Spence's opponents much easier. He could no longer be ignored.

        Arum was going to make Mayweather fight the tough fights he didn't want. Floyd saw the writing on the wall and ran for the hills. He cherry-picked his career ever since. It was a lucrative decision that paid off, but at a cost to his legacy, which he himself said he doesn't care about.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Roadblock View Post
          55 Mill converts to around 620k buyers and then there is the live gate and International, not too shabby at all considering how many in here bagged the whole show.
          I, as a boxing fan purchased the $85 pay per view event.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

            Crawford was a hard sell. He wasn't a flashy trash talker, not charismatic, it was difficult to promote him to the casuals which make up a majority of PPV sales. Regardless, he made more money than any other PBC fighter outside of Spence and Wilder prior to 2023. He became undisputed at 140. Champion in 3 weight classes. He devoured Spence's opponents much easier. He could no longer be ignored.

            Arum was going to make Mayweather fight the tough fights he didn't want. Floyd saw the writing on the wall and ran for the hills. He cherry-picked his career ever since. It was a lucrative decision that paid off, but at a cost to his legacy, which he himself said he doesn't care about.
            Well you definitely didn't lie there. It's true. Bob did over pay Terence Bud Crawford by constantly resigning him because of one: He was his token black fighter and secondly, to block him from ever signing with Al Haymon and the PBC. Also, what are these tough fights that Mayweather refused to fight with Bob Arum? Every boxing fan is curious to know.

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            • #96
              Was hoping it would do a million

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              • #97
                Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                I give Bud blame too, for re-signing!
                Yeah but why do you blame Bud doe? Thurman was the star then when Bud resigned. Spence became a star after that. Resigning shouldn’t have anything to do with making big or cross over fights. Thats what started the sorry ass know it all fans who said that Bud didn’t want to fight the top WWs. Those clowns were protecting the PBC. That’s what the PBC put into guys heads after they signed some WWs. The ****ed up part is that they did cross over fights after the Bob Haymon law suit that hardly made big money. Loma and Russell for starters. Haymon knew who to sacrifice and who he shouldn’t risk and concentrated on in house fights. He gets no credit from me no matter how decent he paid his fighters. They shut Bud out and I can’t forgive him for that. That’s why I never liked his azz….

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by GhostofDempsey View Post

                  No excuses, for years PBC refused to even acknowledge Bud as a champion. They locked him out. Crawford made nearly as much money staying with TR and being the top dog, achieved undisputed at 140. You're talking like an idiot cheerleader. PBC didn't build Bud's career. None of their fighters are superstars that were built from the ground up under their promotion or management. Floyd built Tank, and it took Canelo, Manny and Fury, and Ryan to make PBCs biggest fights.
                  Floyd built Tank where? Yeah, on PBC! Had Crawford come to PBC instead of signing an extension with TR, he would've been a PPV Star a long time ago, and he wouldn't be suing TR! He should've learned from Mikey Garcia!

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Raggamuffin View Post
                    Yeah but why do you blame Bud doe? Thurman was the star then when Bud resigned. Spence became a star after that. Resigning shouldn’t have anything to do with making big or cross over fights. Thats what started the sorry ass know it all fans who said that Bud didn’t want to fight the top WWs. Those clowns were protecting the PBC. That’s what the PBC put into guys heads after they signed some WWs. The ****ed up part is that they did cross over fights after the Bob Haymon law suit that hardly made big money. Loma and Russell for starters. Haymon knew who to sacrifice and who he shouldn’t risk and concentrated on in house fights. He gets no credit from me no matter how decent he paid his fighters. They shut Bud out and I can’t forgive him for that. That’s why I never liked his azz….
                    When Bud re-signed with TR, PBC had Thurman, Porter, DSG, and Spence! The best WW not on PBC was Manny Pacquiao! BUD DIDN'T EVEN GET PACQUIAO!!! How do you not secure a guarantee for Pacquiao? Bob later admits he kept Pacquiao away from Crawford, because he felt Pacquiao would get hurt! He should've sued him for that, but he wouldn't have won, because at one time Bud said if Pacquiao wanted him, he had to come to 140! That was ****** too!

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                    • Originally posted by Bronx2245 View Post
                      When Bud re-signed with TR, PBC had Thurman, Porter, DSG, and Spence! The best WW not on PBC was Manny Pacquiao! BUD DIDN'T EVEN GET PACQUIAO!!! How do you not secure a guarantee for Pacquiao? Bob later admits he kept Pacquiao away from Crawford, because he felt Pacquiao would get hurt! He should've sued him for that, but he wouldn't have won, because at one time Bud said if Pacquiao wanted him, he had to come to 140! That was ****** too!
                      Thurman was the man when Bud resigned. Thurman wasn’t trying to make a fight with Bud or Spence at that time. And Bud is suing Arum for the missed Pac fights and lame attempts to talk to Haymon about those PBC WWs when both Arum and Haymon made cross over fights with their fighters along with a host of other reasons. Bud was always falsely considered low risk, low reward to those PBC fighters because of his failed ppvs. It wasn’t until fans screamed for the PBC to pit Bud against Bud the best PBC welterweight……that we got that fight. When fans scream, fighters better listen.

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