Spence post car accident looked exactly the same in garcia and ugas fight

[hugh grant]

Spence at his very best his ability might be been worthy of high praise but you have to be able to maintain that level with discipline.
Spence has good wins at WW but hasn't really been what you could say dominant to the point he shouldve been a pfp fighter. When your saying someone's a pf p fighter you're really saying you think he'd be able to step up divisions and have success, but with spence having difficulty in his first weight class how do you explain thinking he'd step up many divsions?

[ELPacman]

Accident didn't cause Spence's skills to deteriorate. They are what they are, period. Before and after accident. Clearly he's not ever in Bud's league and that will never change. The only difference would have been maybe Spence wouldn't have gotten so beat up so quickly, but he would of gotten beat up regardless.

Listen, I hate to see Spence gets wrecked the way he did because he was one of my favorite fighters to watch just as equal as Bud. Though someone had to lose this one. I rather it be the actual better guy skill wise.

[satiev1]

Accident didn't cause Spence's skills to deteriorate. They are what they are, period. Before and after accident. Clearly he's not ever in Bud's league and that will never change. The only difference would have been maybe Spence wouldn't have gotten so beat up so quickly, but he would of gotten beat up regardless.

Listen, I hate to see Spence gets wrecked the way he did because he was one of my favorite fighters to watch just as equal as Bud. Though someone had to lose this one. I rather it be the actual better guy skill wise.

Yup. If the accident did, it would have showed in the garcia and ugas fight. It didn't.

[_Rexy_]

Spence has always had the same defensive flaws. Bud explored them perfectly. Always would have.

[_Rexy_]

Yes, I get all that but yet he was still taking long layoffs between fights. By the time he fought Danny Garcia in December 2020; He hadn't fought in 15 months.

Then subsequently for the Ugas fight; He had a long layoff as well. He hadn't fought in 16 months prior to that fight too. Then came Saturday night once he challenged Crawford when he had been out of the ring for a total of 15 months.

The reason why I am saying all of this is because Errol Spence is no longer a younger fighter. He's 33 years old now and when he is not active inside of the ring his body tends to pack on the pounds.

Which causes it to gradually age and deteriorate. This makes it twice as hard for him to cut weight while losing both his timing and conditioning in the process.

For example: He has had only three fights in the past four years.

I guess it’s better to have the “bad resume” than it is to sit on your ass for 15 months between every fight.

who knew?

[sunny31]

Whilst I agree that I was very impressed with how he looked in his past 2 fights, I do think he tried to make 147 one too many times. It looked like his body didn't spring back the following day and he did look drained.

With that said, I think he could do better at 54 but it would be the same result, I just can't see him having prolonged success against someone who can out jab him, and someone who has as many tools as Crawford.

The only thing that will beat Crawford, is father time, or an exceptional fighter, or a much bigger fighter IMHO

[SweetPbfAli]

Crawford also didn't fight for a long time and he's older than spence and he's been cutting weight a lot harder. He was 155 lbs cutting down to 135 lbs. Bud's body took a lot of wear and tear over the years. Spence is a lot younger and more fresh. Either way the accident wouldn't have changed bud's ability to land counters.

I think this is an overcorrection for the Spence being damaged narrative. Spence is a known drinker in boxing circles. Hell, I have family in Dallas and he was constantly partying and drinking between bouts. That along with constantly boiling down causes havoc for any athlete, especially a boxer.

Bud doesn't have vices like smoking or alcohol which already puts him a a great advantage as far as the wear and tear on his body. Did he cut weight? Of course. But he also is a known gym rat that didn't abuse his body. And that's without even addressing the accident, retina, and inactivity.

Multiple things can be true.

[North Star]

I think this is an overcorrection for the Spence being damaged narrative. Spence is a known drinker in boxing circles. Hell, I have family in Dallas and he was constantly partying and drinking between bouts. That along with constantly boiling down causes havoc for any athlete, especially a boxer.

Bud doesn't have vices like smoking or alcohol which already puts him a a great advantage as far as the wear and tear on his body. Did he cut weight? Of course. But he also is a known gym rat that didn't abuse his body. And that's without even addressing the accident, retina, and inactivity.

Multiple things can be true.

I was gonna post pretty much the same exact thing. Spence is about that party life when not training and Bud is in fighting shape year round. Note I said fighting shape and not fighting weight. Bud is a throwback in that sense, where he stays away from alcohol, drugs, and even bad food. You have to have that discipline to be the best you can be at a moments notice. That was very evident in this fight.

[tonysoprano]

His face looked like he’d been 12 rounds after 3.

This boy ain’t right. I think he needs a good workout at 154 before he goes near Bud again.

[_Rexy_]

I think this is an overcorrection for the Spence being damaged narrative. Spence is a known drinker in boxing circles. Hell, I have family in Dallas and he was constantly partying and drinking between bouts. That along with constantly boiling down causes havoc for any athlete, especially a boxer.

Bud doesn't have vices like smoking or alcohol which already puts him a a great advantage as far as the wear and tear on his body. Did he cut weight? Of course. But he also is a known gym rat that didn't abuse his body. And that's without even addressing the accident, retina, and inactivity.

Multiple things can be true.

Bud has a home gym and trains year round. Errol goes into camps bloated, overweight and out of shape

Fans really undervalue the effects of clean living. Beterbiev and Kovalev are the same age. BHop admittedly hasn’t had a soft drink or alcohol since the 1980’s