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  • #31
    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

    Most agree Nel o would beat bivol. Bivol > nelo.
    After seeing spence against bud, many think people could best spence, hindsight is allowed, it is legal. Many people think others could beat spence and that not only bud is the person who could beat spence.
    I almost think id beat spence. I didnt get that feeling with.fulton. Fulton actually intimidated me watching his face not change after being hit by Inioues punches. I was thinking damn it Fulton when you going to show some pain and discomfortsyou moth#r ****er
    Fulton went life and death with Figeuroa, sounds great.

    Fulton had been champion nearly 2 years. Spence had been champion nearly 7 years. We didn’t know anything about Fulton until he had a big step up fight & he didn’t look great. Can’t compare a P4P fighter to a Fulton.

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    • #32
      I enjoy numbers, but these mean precisely what? Both guys are fantastic, so the relative number of punches these guys landed and threw really means about as much as which guy had the better pre-fight hype-man. Both guys know how to dominate a fight. Bud beat the better challenger this week, and he has the overall better resume being a 3-division champion and undisputed in two weight classes. Inoue is right behind him as a 4-division champion. These two are going to be #1-#2 for the next couple years with Crawford moving up to possibly unify 154lbs and Inoue possibly doing the same at featherweight.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Most agree Nel o would beat bivol. Bivol > nelo.
        After seeing spence against bud, many think people could best spence, hindsight is allowed, it is legal. Many people think others could beat spence and that not only bud is the person who could beat spence.
        I almost think id beat spence. I didnt get that feeling with.fulton. Fulton actually intimidated me watching his face not change after being hit by Inioues punches. I was thinking damn it Fulton when you going to show some pain and discomfortsyou moth#r ****er
        I was probably one of the few who took the +390 Bivol.

        Crawford better resume atm so he's #1. Lineal 3 division and 2 undisputed is pretty hard to do.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

          Why do people always say this to try give bud more credibility? "I'm a monster fan but"
          I'm a bud fan but Inoue is no1 Inou e done more in shorter time and will do more than bud will do in 3 more fights before bud retires. Buds history soon.
          You're still talking **** about Bud Tryhard, lmao. And he hasn’t done more in a shorter time. When has he unified ANY division. Spence ended your pathetic hopes when he got his ass kicked. Metric that clown.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

            Most agree Nel o would beat bivol. Bivol > nelo.
            After seeing spence against bud, many think people could best spence, hindsight is allowed, it is legal. Many people think others could beat spence and that not only bud is the person who could beat spence.
            I almost think id beat spence. I didnt get that feeling with.fulton. Fulton actually intimidated me watching his face not change after being hit by Inioues punches. I was thinking damn it Fulton when you going to show some pain and discomfortsyou moth#r ****er
            Fulton was scared of the incoming and didn’t win a round against Inoue. Stop overrating his performance. On paper he was expected to give Inoue resistance and he didn’t at all. His punch output was non existent.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by VashDBasher View Post

              Sounds like projection on your part. If you like being cucked, then that’s on you. I won’t judge you for that.
              Good comeback Hansel lmao

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              • #37
                Originally posted by messi807 View Post
                I find it very crazy Inoue was even P4P #1 after beating a 40 year old Donaire who lost pretty much every big fight he’d been in. Even before the Donaire win, back in 2021 they had him as high as #2-3.

                Great fighter.. he just doesn’t have the ‘names’ around him. I look at 122-126 and I think what fighters actually have ‘HOF’ or ‘great potential’? and there isn’t much.
                That's because you don't follow boxing. How many marquee 'name fighters' do we generally see in the lower divisions compared to the middle divisions? It's not that there aren't great fighters at featherweight and below, its that the sport (especially in the US and Europe) focuses on the middle and heavier divisions, so that's where the 'stars' are. This has always been the case. If a fighter in the lower divisions breaks out to become an international star its because that fighter has proven himself to be really special. You have either never seen Inoue fight or you don't know what you're watching. This is a 4-division world champion (undisputed at bantamweight) who has beaten (wiped out) the best guys in all of those divisions. The fact that you don't know his opposition or follow the lighter weights is the only reason you find it crazy that Inoue could be rated so high. At the moment, most hardcore fans would rate Crawford higher due to him being a 3-division champ and two-division undisputed champion, but Inoue is right behind him. Unless Usyk beats Tyson Fury, Crawford and Inoue will be #1-#2 for the next couple of years. Inoue has a case for overtaking the #1 spot if/when he unifies the junior featherweight division and if he moves up and wins/unifies the featherweight division. Crawford, of course, could widen the gap if he unifies JMW. These are two legends of the sport who just happen to be fighting in the same era.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by messi807 View Post

                  Fulton went life and death with Figeuroa, sounds great.

                  Fulton had been champion nearly 2 years. Spence had been champion nearly 7 years. We didn’t know anything about Fulton until he had a big step up fight & he didn’t look great. Can’t compare a P4P fighter to a Fulton.
                  And Figueroa has a good record, just because he is small and people have little interest in lightweight and mostly don't know them as as as a result don't mean they're not good
                  Don't matter spence is pf p and champ for 10 years he's not the man he was Saturday night. That's all we can judge. You got to be honest spence wasn't himself that night, n showing vulnerability as early as 2nd round. Fulton really did scare me with his face alone. Inoue was probably worried his punches weren't effecting Fulton. And Inoue certainly expecting Fulton to get up in 8th, although praying hed stay down as that was Inoues best punch, if that wasn't going to keep him down nothing was!
                  Last edited by hugh grant; 08-02-2023, 02:49 PM.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by TheOneAboveAll View Post

                    That's because you don't follow boxing. How many marquee 'name fighters' do we generally see in the lower divisions compared to the middle divisions? It's not that there aren't great fighters at featherweight and below, its that the sport (especially in the US and Europe) focuses on the middle and heavier divisions, so that's where the 'stars' are. This has always been the case. If a fighter in the lower divisions breaks out to become an international star its because that fighter has proven himself to be really special. You have either never seen Inoue fight or you don't know what you're watching. This is a 4-division world champion (undisputed at bantamweight) who has beaten (wiped out) the best guys in all of those divisions. The fact that you don't know his opposition or follow the lighter weights is the only reason you find it crazy that Inoue could be rated so high. At the moment, most hardcore fans would rate Crawford higher due to him being a 3-division champ and two-division undisputed champion, but Inoue is right behind him. Unless Usyk beats Tyson Fury, Crawford and Inoue will be #1-#2 for the next couple of years. Inoue has a case for overtaking the #1 spot if/when he unifies the junior featherweight division and if he moves up and wins/unifies the featherweight division. Crawford, of course, could widen the gap if he unifies JMW. These are two legends of the sport who just happen to be fighting in the same era.
                    “The fact that you don't know his opposition or follow the lighter weights is the only reason you find it crazy that Inoue could be rated so high”

                    I do know his opposition. I just don’t rank them as ‘great fighters’ lol. I’m not going to give him special treatment just ‘because.

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                    • #40
                      all those stats prove that Inoue hits that much harder than Crawford.

                      He lands less punches with a higher KO %

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