Comments Thread For: Could Crawford Be Next For Charlo? Jermell Says He's Staying At 154 Pounds After Alvarez Fight

[wrecksracer]

That's a ****** argument as I'm sure you would say that lol. It was his last fight with top rank and Bob didn't give a s*** anymore. Duh duh duh. He had all but said he was through with him.

What route? What the hell are you talking about?

Oh, I see.....you're just dense. Porter saw that it was his only route to a title. Haymon ran out of options for him. Bob didn't give a **** anymore? It was a Top Rank fight on ESPN. Porter came to ESPN. Garcia could have done it. Thurman could have done it. They didn't have belts. They were being advised against it.

[TheWinners]

Oh, I see.....you're just dense. Porter saw that it was his only route to a title. Haymon ran out of options for him. Bob didn't give a **** anymore? It was a Top Rank fight on ESPN. Porter came to ESPN. Garcia could have done it. Thurman could have done it. They didn't have belts. They were being advised against it.

He was on the brink of retirement. He didn't care about no belts. He came out and said win or loss he's retiring. That was all for glory.

So are you connected with AL Haymon and PBC to know what they were advised? But everyone knows Crawford resigned with Top Rank. And many wonder how many more meaningful fights he would have if he didn't.

[wrecksracer]

He was on the brink of retirement. He didn't care about no belts. He came out and said win or loss he's retiring. That was all for glory.

So are you connected with AL Haymon and PBC to know what they were advised? But everyone knows Crawford resigned with Top Rank. And many wonder how many more meaningful fights he would have if he didn't.

Why wouldn't Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman be willing to fight Crawford on ESPN for a belt? They didn't have one. It could have set up an all PBC Undisputed fight had either of them won. They were either chicken, or were advised against it. Spence had to demand to fight Crawford, just as Porter did. Haymon did not want it.

[TheWinners]

Why wouldn't Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman be willing to fight Crawford on ESPN for a belt? They didn't have one. It could have set up an all PBC Undisputed fight had either of them won. They were either chicken, or were advised against it. Spence had to demand to fight Crawford, just as Porter did. Haymon did not want it.

You're asking questions but those are irrelevant questions. You have no evidence they were advised against it. Just what you believe. I've told you facts. And there are countless articles speaking on when Crawford surprisingly resigned with Top Rank. And the opinions of those connected in the boxing world.

A strong conviction or belief with no evidence does not dismiss facts. And everyone who knows anything about boxing knew when Crawford resigned with Top Rank it would be near impossible to get the meaningful fights. Unless he was ok with not getting them at that time.

[wrecksracer]

You're asking questions but those are irrelevant questions. You have no evidence they were advised against it. Just what you believe. I've told you facts. And there are countless articles speaking on when Crawford surprisingly resigned with Top Rank. And the opinions of those connected in the boxing world.

A strong conviction or belief with no evidence does not dismiss facts. And everyone who knows anything about boxing knew when Crawford resigned with Top Rank it would be near impossible to get the meaningful fights. Unless he was ok with not getting them at that time.

"near impossible to get the meaningful fights" except the Porter fight. And everybody knows Garcia turned down $5 million. And everybody knows that Spence had to demand the fight. Any of them could have done the same. Haymon absolutely knew his guys would get slaughtered. Better to keep it on "their side of the street." Fool guys like you into thinking they were great. You are a rube who bought into "their side of the street. It was an artificial obstacle. It wasn't impossible for Garcia or Thurman to fight on ESPN to try to get Crawford's belt. Why wouldn't they?

[TheWinners]

"near impossible to get the meaningful fights" except the Porter fight. And everybody knows Garcia turned down $5 million. And everybody knows that Spence had to demand the fight. Any of them could have done the same. Haymon absolutely knew his guys would get slaughtered. Better to keep it on "their side of the street." Fool guys like you into thinking they were great. You are a rube who bought into "their side of the street. It was an artificial obstacle. It wasn't impossible for Garcia or Thurman to fight on ESPN to try to get Crawford's belt. Why wouldn't they?

The rationale that Crawford who turns 36 soon and finally had his 1st career defining fight, was heavily avoided because his talent was so astonishing is idiotic.The guy didn't even get a decent name at 147 til he beat Porter who had already lost 3 times anyway.

Anything wasn't impossible. What we know is Bud resigning with Top Rank made it near impossible. And the proof is the damn fight didn't happen until he parted ways with Arum. Which is what he should've done when he had the chance.

Whats more plausible is he didn't want to be in the driver's seat of his career. Because he wouldnt have a promoter to blame why the fight didn't happen. Or why he hasn't had a meaningful fight his whole campaign at 147 til almost 36. There would've been more pressure for him to actually take competitive fights. As you seen what he did in his new found freedom. A fight with David Avacado Avenyasan. He would've been fine never fighting Spence. So Spence had to force him.

Thats this new generation garbage. Take the easiest path and say everyone is running from you. And people pick a side. Who they want to believe. 36 and finally beat a great opponent. After he flew through a windshield lol. He likes to fight cripples. A guy with a bullet in his leg, 2 broken orbital bones, glass chin Kahn, and a guy named David Avacado because it just fits lol.

He had to take these lesser fights because while the other 147 lb fighters were beating the hell out of each other, he was heavily avoided. Yeah ok dude.

Research some articles about what the boxing community thought about him resigning with Top Rank. And these new Gen idiots are comparing him to Mayweather after his 1st great win at 147. While Mayweather was beating hof fighters at a young age

[wrecksracer]

The rationale that Crawford who turns 36 soon and finally had his 1st career defining fight, was heavily avoided because his talent was so astonishing is idiotic.The guy didn't even get a decent name at 147 til he beat Porter who had already lost 3 times anyway.

Anything wasn't impossible. What we know is Bud resigning with Top Rank made it near impossible. And the proof is the damn fight didn't happen until he parted ways with Arum. Which is what he should've done when he had the chance.

Whats more plausible is he didn't want to be in the driver's seat of his career. Because he wouldnt have a promoter to blame why the fight didn't happen. Or why he hasn't had a meaningful fight his whole campaign at 147 til almost 36. There would've been more pressure for him to actually take competitive fights. As you seen what he did in his new found freedom. A fight with David Avacado Avenyasan. He would've been fine never fighting Spence. So Spence had to force him.

Thats this new generation garbage. Take the easiest path and say everyone is running from you. And people pick a side. Who they want to believe. 36 and finally beat a great opponent. After he flew through a windshield lol. He likes to fight cripples. A guy with a bullet in his leg, 2 broken orbital bones, glass chin Kahn, and a guy named David Avacado because it just fits lol.

He had to take these lesser fights because while the other 147 lb fighters were beating the hell out of each other, he was heavily avoided. Yeah ok dude.

Research some articles about what the boxing community thought about him resigning with Top Rank. And these new Gen idiots are comparing him to Mayweather after his 1st great win at 147. While Mayweather was beating hof fighters at a young age

He got the most possible money from Top Rank, and then got PBC to pay him more than they wanted to to beat their top guy. PBC may offer him Thurman's sorry-ass, but I'll bet they will advise Charlo to steer clear. At the end of the day, Crawford fought both Porter and Spence. They both lost to him, as would Thurman and Garcia. So he wasted a few years fighting some stiffs? He's the one who came out on top, and will go to the HOF. Spence should have fought him earlier......but you know he was being advised against it. Just like Charlo will be advised against it.

[Goatintheboat]

I agree. Benavidez should keep moving forward with his career and fight Morrell. That would be a really good fight.

The hard part about his situation though is that these fighters bust there ass to get in position to get a title and the acclaim and money that comes with that. It's a shame that a fight that shouldn't happen can hold up two divisions. I feel bad for Tim at 154 and Benavidez.

Well it's all in PBCs hands now. They have the fighters from WW to SMW to give us the best fights for the next 2 years.