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  • ajamudc
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    #81
    Originally posted by Goatintheboat
    Unfortunately Jermall wasn't ready and PBC chose Jermell for Canelo. Pity they didn't wait until after the Crawford Spence fight.

    Crawfords next fight should be a big one and the obvious fight is Jermell. Who knows maybe he'll bash up Canelo and the Crawford fight becomes a monster. Or he gets KOs and Crawford misses out.



    I guess my biggest problem with the Canelo situation is that neither Charlo brother should have gotten the Canelo fight in the first place. Canelo should be fighting Benavidez.

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    • Goatintheboat
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      #82
      Originally posted by ajamudc

      I guess my biggest problem with the Canelo situation is that neither Charlo brother should have gotten the Canelo fight in the first place. Canelo should be fighting Benavidez.
      Benenvidez must have thought he'd get Canelo but PBC have done him dirty. No point crying though. Morrell is asking for the fight so go shut him up.

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      • TheWinners
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        #83
        Originally posted by wrecksracer

        Danny Garcia was offered $5 million to face Crawford. He turned it down for a $1 million fight. Porter could have fought Crawford at any time. He only agreed for his last fight. These guys were being advised against fighting Crawford. They could have done it at any time. Spence had to demand to fight Crawford. Come on.....Haymon wanted no part of Crawford. Everybody can see why.
        I just think you're deluded and drinking the Kool aid. These promoter wars are nothing new. But you keep dodging a plain as day fact. Crawford, knowing he was unlikely to secure a fight with a PBC fighter while being promoted by Arum still went and resigned with him. Why is this so hard to grasp?

        Did you think he believed that all of a sudden things would change between Top Rank and PBC? It's just ludicrous. His promoter already was saying he would lose money on those fights. Because not only would TC want more money but his opponent as well. And none of those fights were worth what they thought they were to the public. I' don't care about who offered who what. It's irrelevant. Crawford could've left Top Rank and been a free agent to fight whomever he pleased. Which is what he ultimately ended up doing. But not before using Arum as the scapegoat. You know the guy that got him paid handsomely to beat faded fighters.

        I get it though it's just a bias. Ignore the obvious and most important fact. The choice Crawford made to resign with Top Rank. And everyone who's a somebody in the business knew what that meant.

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          #84
          By the time Charlo fights Canelo at 168 and then comes back to 154, what is expected to be there, I don't think its going to pan out good for Charlo, Id rather see Bud fight Ennis or Tyzsu, 2 hungry fighters coming up, not a guy after a long layoff probably stopped by Canelo and then go back 2 divisions, nah not for me Id much rather the hotshots from a single weightclass.

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          • TheWinners
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            #85
            Originally posted by Mr.NiceGuy

            He knew he could whip any in that PCB stable and he just proved it by thrashing the best of the bunch so what you mean it was bs? You are delusional if you think you know what really went on with these shady promoters, none of us do but all the fighters want to do is fight while they still can and prevent these greedy promoters and sanctioning bodies from robbing them blind.These guys are pretty damn simple and some are intelligent enough to see the bs. You my friend are way off base
            Learn to comprehend. Him being able to whoop those guys is irrelevant. He wasn't in a rush to fight any of them. If he was, he wouldn't have resigned with Top Rank. He didn't have to go to PBC to fight those guys as demonstrated with the fight with Spence.

            It's debatable rather he purposely did this that they may cancel each other out while he took lesser opponents. But the fact remains he was in no rush to fight those guys. He had a golden opportunity to easily accomplish that and he took another route. This was obvious.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Roadblock
              By the time Charlo fights Canelo at 168 and then comes back to 154, what is expected to be there, I don't think its going to pan out good for Charlo, Id rather see Bud fight Ennis or Tyzsu, 2 hungry fighters coming up, not a guy after a long layoff probably stopped by Canelo and then go back 2 divisions, nah not for me Id much rather the hotshots from a single weightclass.
              Although I may bet on it if there are good odds, I'm not sure Canelo would stop Charlo. It's not like there will be a significant size or speed advantage. And Charlo is usually in pretty good shape and doesn't seem to take a lot of hard shots. Uses his jab well.

              Definitely genius matchmaking by Canelo. Of course they will take the credit from him if he wins. But s$$$ on him if he loses or looks bad.

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                #87
                Originally posted by TheWinners

                Although I may bet on it if there are good odds, I'm not sure Canelo would stop Charlo. It's not like there will be a significant size or speed advantage. And Charlo is usually in pretty good shape and doesn't seem to take a lot of hard shots. Uses his jab well.

                Definitely genius matchmaking by Canelo. Of course they will take the credit from him if he wins. But s$$$ on him if he loses or looks bad.
                Oh yeah changes it all if Charlo beat Canelo,,, but chances are he dont.

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                • ajamudc
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Goatintheboat

                  Benenvidez must have thought he'd get Canelo but PBC have done him dirty. No point crying though. Morrell is asking for the fight so go shut him up.
                  I agree. Benavidez should keep moving forward with his career and fight Morrell. That would be a really good fight.

                  The hard part about his situation though is that these fighters bust there ass to get in position to get a title and the acclaim and money that comes with that. It's a shame that a fight that shouldn't happen can hold up two divisions. I feel bad for Tim at 154 and Benavidez.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by TheWinners

                    I just think you're deluded and drinking the Kool aid. These promoter wars are nothing new. But you keep dodging a plain as day fact. Crawford, knowing he was unlikely to secure a fight with a PBC fighter while being promoted by Arum still went and resigned with him. Why is this so hard to grasp?

                    Did you think he believed that all of a sudden things would change between Top Rank and PBC? It's just ludicrous. His promoter already was saying he would lose money on those fights. Because not only would TC want more money but his opponent as well. And none of those fights were worth what they thought they were to the public. I' don't care about who offered who what. It's irrelevant. Crawford could've left Top Rank and been a free agent to fight whomever he pleased. Which is what he ultimately ended up doing. But not before using Arum as the scapegoat. You know the guy that got him paid handsomely to beat faded fighters.

                    I get it though it's just a bias. Ignore the obvious and most important fact. The choice Crawford made to resign with Top Rank. And everyone who's a somebody in the business knew what that meant.
                    so how did Porter vs Crawford happen? Oh...that's different, right? Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman could have gone that same route when they didn't have belts. They were being advised not to. Why is that so hard to grasp? I get it though it's just a bias.

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                    • TheWinners
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by wrecksracer

                      so how did Porter vs Crawford happen? Oh...that's different, right? Danny Garcia or Keith Thurman could have gone that same route when they didn't have belts. They were being advised not to. Why is that so hard to grasp? I get it though it's just a bias.
                      That's a ****** argument as I'm sure you would say that lol. It was his last fight with top rank and Bob didn't give a s*** anymore. Duh duh duh. He had all but said he was through with him.

                      What route? What the hell are you talking about?

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