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  • #81
    Originally posted by jaded View Post
    If you think about it, Spence was probably Crawford's easiest fight, and that does not make sense. I’m not saying that Crawford wasn't going to win...just not so easily.
    It makes perfect sense when you see how he handled the style and Spence makes no adjustments, Spence is only pressure take that away and he is target practice for a guy like TC, its not the first time a guy has been destroyed because his opponent was so much better, and it wont be the last.

    Honestly this forum has the worst judges of boxing Ive ever seen, and I bet its because most are relative newbies to boxing.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by jaded View Post

      No...the accident was in October 2019 and he fought Ugas April 2022.


      There was another accident in December 2022


      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.box...driver--171075
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      • #83
        Originally posted by jaded View Post

        I know he got rear ended 3 months after the first, but he wasn't hurt.

        his leg got hurt

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Gary Coleman View Post

          These aren't excuses as to why he lost, but the circumstances surrounding how badly it all went. If you think none of this was discussed leading up to the fight, then you weren't paying attention.

          The Ugas fight and how easily he was able to hurt Errol was used constantly by Crawford fans as to why Bud would knock Errol out.

          Bud beat Errol. Bud is better than Errol. This thread isn't about that. It's about Spence's health.
          Its easy to look for things after the fact, that's the whole point, Spence has always shown to be a little chinny only he was faced with a sharp shooting power puncher in TC and people assume there is something wrong because he was destroyed, there may be but let's wait for brain scans etc to see what is real before assumptions are used to diminish Crawfords performance.

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          • #85
            Look at the difference in how his face looked vs Ugas...and I'm not talking about after his face got hammered by Crawford, I'm talking about before the bell rang.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by jaded View Post
              Look at the difference in how his face looked vs Ugas...and I'm not talking about after his face got hammered by Crawford, I'm talking about before the bell rang.

              A total difference

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              • #87
                Originally posted by jaded View Post
                Look at the difference in how his face looked vs Ugas...and I'm not talking about after his face got hammered by Crawford, I'm talking about before the bell rang.

                Got a different haircut too, might have been scared shtless of TC when the spotlight was turned on, might not have slept well the night before and had negative thoughts creeping in, there is so many little unseen tangibles that can have a major effect on performance, this is why its so hard to see from the outside exactly where the fighter is on the night and there is nothing you can do about it, the show must go on and it can easily end the way this did, people are too eager to find a reason that makes sense to what they know, so we get all sorts of things getting thrown left right and centre and for the most part it is only taking away from the win.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                  Its easy to look for things after the fact, that's the whole point, Spence has always shown to be a little chinny only he was faced with a sharp shooting power puncher in TC and people assume there is something wrong because he was destroyed, there may be but let's wait for brain scans etc to see what is real before assumptions are used to diminish Crawfords performance.
                  Fair enough. For me, personally, it takes nothing away from Crawford's performance. His style and skill level takes Errol to school regardless.

                  I feel like Spence would still be competitive vs just about everyone else in the division, except maybe Boots.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Roadblock View Post

                    It makes perfect sense when you see how he handled the style and Spence makes no adjustments, Spence is only pressure take that away and he is target practice for a guy like TC, its not the first time a guy has been destroyed because his opponent was so much better, and it wont be the last.

                    Honestly this forum has the worst judges of boxing Ive ever seen, and I bet its because most are relative newbies to boxing.
                    Yeah I was reluctant to even share this because it would seem like excuse making. However, I picked Bud to win and being aware of Spence's lifestyle and all the external factors played a part in that in addition to how damn good Bud is and the style issue he poses to someone as basic as Errol.

                    Now, the "Doctor" in the video said something that stuck out that gave me pause. He made a statement about when has Bud ever looked that good. It was dismissive and sounded like a jilted Spence fan or someone that isn't a fan of Bud.

                    I think it's a culmination of many of the things that we all know and ****, Bud knew! Someone mentioned to me that Spence may have had performance anxiety prior to the fight which is why he looked off to people. I don't know enough about performance anxiety and the symptoms but there was a look or worry in his eyes like he wasn't sure he was ready for the moment. Again, it doesn't have to be a singular thing and just to be clear, Bud beats ANY version of Errol.
                    Last edited by SweetPbfAli; 08-01-2023, 08:32 AM.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by Tony Trick-Pony View Post
                      Great point. No more of this "marinating" BS.
                      That's right. Anything can happen in just a week's time. Let alone years. Accidents happen, injuries, loses, get derailed, personal issues, legal issues, etc. We also grow old and fat and have a hard time losing weight. We can't always sing, "Que sera, sera, whatever will be, will be."
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