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  • messi807
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    #21
    Originally posted by juanpablo
    P4P talk should be at the end of the year when all is said and done for 2023. Inoue still has a chance to get his second undisputed, 21 straight title fights in 26 fights at 30yo. Regardless, we got to see 2 generational talents in the same week and that's a rarity
    Even if he does.. it’s still not enough. Spence>Tapales

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Originally posted by messi807

      Even if Inoue beats Tapales it’s still not enough. The guy has awful defence and will just be another scrub on a resume.
      Inoue will have gone up to 122 and beaten the best 2 at the weight. In addition to everything else on his resume you at least have to discuss it.

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      • messi807
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        #23
        Originally posted by Greenfield02
        While I agree, it was a big step for Crawford to finally face and beat someone in the top tier, let's not get ahead of things. I must remind everyone, this was Crawford's very first big win, no one, I mean no one, becomes P4P best by one signature win, he's the best WW, but P4P best means you have faced and beat multiple A level opponents.....
        If that’s the case then why was Inoue ranked P4P after beating a 40 year old Donaire that’s lost to everyone above average he’s ever faced?

        Donaire had been stopped by Walters, beaten by Rigo, lost every round to Frampton & lost every round to Jessie Magdaleno. Then lost a few nights ago to Jovanie Santiago.

        A 40 year old Donaire isn’t a better win than Viktor Postol at the time, nor stopping Shawn Porter.. Iet alone Spence. Gamboa was probably a better win.. he was undefeated, P4P and the odds were much closer.
        Last edited by messi807; 07-31-2023, 09:58 AM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          Inoue will have gone up to 122 and beaten the best 2 at the weight. In addition to everything else on his resume you at least have to discuss it.
          I get you. But Tapales was stopped in Japan a few fights ago by a C level fighter. Spence vs Bud was a 50/50 - I don’t think anyone is rubbing their hands together for Inoue vs Tapales.

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            #25
            I have a top 3 p4p, Usyk, Inoue & now Bud in no particular order.
            But i will say you don't get any I'm the A-side bs 5 year's of marrinating like you do from bud, they make (or try to) the next legacy fight.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn

              Inoue will have gone up to 122 and beaten the best 2 at the weight. In addition to everything else on his resume you at least have to discuss it.
              Inoue 4 divisons are from 108 to 122. Thats 14 pounds.

              Bud 3 divisons are from 135 to 147. Thats 12 pounds.


              Yall gotta stop acting like monster made some crazy weight rise.

              Bud is number 1 p4p
              Last edited by Hustle; 07-31-2023, 12:41 PM.

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                #27
                While Inoue's performance was great, I was a little reluctant to label him no.1 before the weekend. I think the manner in which Crawford beat Spence makes him the p4p #1. I feel it was a more dominant performance against a more accomplished fighter even though Fulton is closer to his prime than Spence.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Bob
                  I have a top 3 p4p, Usyk, Inoue & now Bud in no particular order.
                  But i will say you don't get any I'm the A-side bs 5 year's of marrinating like you do from bud, they make (or try to) the next legacy fight.
                  Stop it. You had Inoue & Uysk 1 and 2. Now all of a sudden after Bud’s made history and has the best win of this era it’s no particular order and take a shot at Bud. I’m not sure what some of you people have against admitting Bud is the P4P #1.
                  Last edited by messi807; 07-31-2023, 10:16 AM.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Hustle

                    Inoue 4 divisons are 112 to 122. Thats 10 pounds.

                    Bud 3 divisons from 135 to 147. Thats 12 pounds.


                    Yall gotta stop acting like monster made some crazy weight rise. It's 10 f#cking pounds.

                    Bud is number 1 p4p
                    I agree Crawford is. I just think Inoue is closer than most.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

                      I agree Crawford is. I just think Inoue is closer than most.
                      At times it can seem like this debate is the equivalent of debating how many angels fit on the head of a pin... I mean its creative, and people have some compelling reasons for their picks... But its hard to objectively determine this measure. I am content to have a 5 fighter pound for pound, or so... Otherwise how do we measure a prime Stephen Fulton versus a possibly damaged Spence? etc, etc. Not an easy category to determine.

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