Spence was shopworn. Lets not get carried away with Crawford hype.

[SweetPbfAli]

I think prime Spence gives him a tough fight. Current version of Spence is a journeyman.

None of what you're saying is supported by actual analysis, just feelings. There's no way you watched that fight and understood what you were watching and arrive at that conclusion.

HOW would "Prime" Spence do better? Like, strategy and skill wise?

[djtmal]

I give him credit. The question is how much does he deserve. We just have to put things in perspective and not get carried away. People didn't give Spence and Crawford much credit for beating Brook because of his eye injury, so why ignore Spence's eye injury? Then there's the nearly two year layoff and multiple car crashes. All those things contributed to Spence's decline. He's just not the fighter he used to be. We have to keep that in mind when rating him.

No excuses. He did all that whilst beating the best guys staying undefeated and owning damn near all of the belts.

Crawford gets full credit

[Floyd is TBE]

None of what you're saying is supported by actual analysis, just feelings. There's no way you watched that fight and understood what you were watching and arrive at that conclusion.

HOW would "Prime" Spence do better? Like, strategy and skill wise?

So you're saying fatal crashes, a torn retina, and a two year layoff had no effect on Spence? That's crazy. It's clear he's not half the fighter he used to be.

[Floyd is TBE]

No excuses. He did all that whilst beating the best guys staying undefeated and owning damn near all of the belts.

Crawford gets full credit

You're one of the guys who believes Pacquiao's nonsense about leg cramps. Get the hell out of here.

[MulaKO]

I wish it happened five years ago, too. But Crawford was with Top Rank and Arum didn't want to work with Al or give Bud the Pacquiao fight.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Like your papi Al was going to let Spence fight him
Gtfoh
Let’s see ; Tank , Charlo’s , Wilder
You see the trend
Not hard to comprehend , is it

[Floyd is TBE]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Like your papi Al was going to let Spence fight him
Gtfoh
Let’s see ; Tank , Charlo’s , Wilder
You see the trend
Not hard to comprehend , is it

Why didn't Arum give Bud the Pacqiao fight?

[SweetPbfAli]

So you're saying fatal crashes, a torn retina, and a two year layoff had no effect on Spence? That's crazy. It's clear he's not half the fighter he used to be.

Spence said none of that mattered after the fight but his irrationally invested fans are throwing themselves on the shield for him. You can't pick that man to win 2 years post those things happening and when he gets washed, use them as an excuse as to why he lost.

It's disingenuous. Again, stylistically, this was always a terrible matchup for Spence.

He always fought in straight lines with his head on the center line and zero feints. His offense and setups were always predictable (jab, jab same speed then hard hook to the body), slow feet, can't fight off the back foot, and constantly over extended when throwing.

Now you have to tell me of the things I mentioned, what did he do differently pre all the things you mentioned?

[djtmal]

You're one of the guys who believes Pacquiao's nonsense about leg cramps. Get the hell out of here.

I believe you are making excuses, and I am right

[El_Mero]

Man u was one of them same kids claiming Bud was gonna get washed. Foh

[MulaKO]

Why didn't Arum give Bud the Pacqiao fight?

I guess you don’t comprehend
Keep making excuses
Not a fan of promoters but you certainly are
Have a great day celebrating Bud’s outstanding win
No excuses