Every time a PBC fighter steps up, this happens.

[Jubei]

Isn't it crazy? Every time a PBC fighter steps up and finally fights a top guy thats not inhouse, they get stomped. Wilder/Fury, Fulton/Inoue, Plant/Canelo, Porter/Crawford and now Spence vs Crawford. Tank might never fight Shakur/Haney/Teo or Loma now

Enjoy Tank vs Pibtull Cruz II and then Tank vs Rolly II or even Tank vs Chris Colbert.

[johncods]

What the **** does a network have to do with anything? Lol

[niceyboo3]

No. All the opponents you named are on the pound for pound list. The pbc fighters were not. Maybe Spence

[SplitSecond]

PBC are in the business of creating frauds. Spence was literally their best and most accomplished fighter because their interior stable turned out to be decent.

They are trying to trick people and sell garbage products. Davis along with Wilder are great examples. And the reason for the waterdowned sport and why Crawford has no real opposition is due to these guys. There was always something to do in boxing, but now Crawford could jump up to 160lbs and it’s still mainly bums. Even GARSH and an ancient Lara have somehow managed to wriggle their way into a title fight at middleweight. Another is Rolly at 140. Bums for champions everywhere. Pbc is like a disease.

[daggum]

Pbc tried to ignore everyone else in boxing and pretend their guys like wilder were kings but they were just manufactured hype machines. They are doing the same thing with tank with his bum opponents and rigged fights yet once again people in boxing are falling for it and putting tank on the p4p list without ever beating atop 5 opponent. Do not reward this crap

[Mexican_Puppet]

Yeah, they are overrating his fighters with calculated risk

[The Big Dunn]

Isn't it crazy? Every time a PBC fighter steps up and finally fights a top guy thats not inhouse, they get stomped. Wilder/Fury, Fulton/Inoue, Plant/Canelo, Porter/Crawford and now Spence vs Crawford. Tank might never fight Shakur/Haney/Teo or Loma now

Enjoy Tank vs Pibtull Cruz II and then Tank vs Rolly II or even Tank vs Chris Colbert.

Great examples here. All the PBC guys took the risk to fight boxers that are consensus p4p beat in the sport.

Which is worse- the pbc guys fighting and losing to guys on the top p4p list, or guys from other promotions like Loma ( salido), Teo, (kambosos), etc losing to average joes and bums?

[The Big Dunn]

PBC are in the business of creating frauds. Spence was literally their best and most accomplished fighter because their interior stable turned out to be decent.

They are trying to trick people and sell garbage products. Davis along with Wilder are great examples. And the reason for the waterdowned sport and why Crawford has no real opposition is due to these guys. There was always something to do in boxing, but now Crawford could jump up to 160lbs and it’s still mainly bums. Even GARSH and an ancient Lara have somehow managed to wriggle their way into a title fight at middleweight. Another is Rolly at 140. Bums for champions everywhere. Pbc is like a disease.

How is a boxer a fraud if he loses to a better boxer?

Would Manny be a fraud losing to Horn?

Youre mad because PBC hasnt folded. Youre also incensed they make money by marketing and promoting their fighters to fans that want to see them. Not guys like you that hate them for reasons that are obvious.

Tank and Wilder are great examples of your bias. Since when does how a boxer is marketed impact you as a fan?

Rolly is also a great example. He isn’t talented but he does what is needed to bring attention to himself and sell seats. Your anger should be directed at the boxers and promoters you like that dont do that.

Take Crawford. His first fight with PBC and Eminem escorts him to the ring. He comes with the big fish net. Stuff TR never does to help raise a guys profile.

The disease is you still hating PBC because it’s run by a black man and because Floyd beat Manny.

Just remember PBC got Manny his highest paydays.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Wait people here don't think Tank is like that??? Wtf lmao

[Clegg]

The promotional fanboying on here is lame, but the different promoters do have different philosophies when handling talent, in terms of who they sign and how they match them. Note how in a lot of those matchups it was TR fighters (or ex-TR-fighters if we're talking Crawford-Spence) who beat the PBC guys.

TR don't sign as many fighters as PBC but imo they have the best talent scouts and often sign up great fighters when they are young. Nobody knew Crawford when they first signed him. They prioritise the best Olympians like Floyd, DLH, Loma, Stevenson, Robiesy. Arum also has strong ties with Warren in the UK, the top Japanese promoter, and Zanfer in Mexico. So he's better connected to sign up guys like Fury, Inoue and other elites.

Arum also cuts guys loose when they don't measure up, like he did with Berlanga and Zurdo. Hearn and DLH ended up paying them big money to be average instead.

Arum obviously has lots of flaws. He should've made the Crawford-Spence fight years ago. I do dislike Spence having a 'I'll clean up my side of the street first' attitude, but if Arum had offered to do the fight on 60-40 terms one fight deal years ago, I think PBC accept. Crawford would've won, been a big name, undisputed, and then a year down the line could've negotiated a rematch with 60-40 or better terms in his favour. Would've been much better for Bud and for Arum but not Arum's style to do that.

So all the promoters have flaws but I do think these PBC fighters losing is more than just coincidence. Tank did beat Garcia in a big cross-promotional fight though so it's not all one-way traffic.