Comments Thread For: Terence Crawford/Naoya Inoue: Nine Years Converge

[Bob]

Great article,

As this is a p4p discussion, atm i have a top 2... Usyk & Inoue simply because you don't get any I'm the A-side marrinating bs from either of them. Who's the best? I want him....That's legacy.

Spence Crawford should be on they're 2nd or 3rd fight & in a different division already. Instead they've been arguing over who chooses the carpet pile & the d****s for 3 fekin year's.

Bob out

[Clegg]

Good read as always Cliff. Don't think I had heard of Paul Fuji until this article. Gotta be one of the oldest ex-champs still with us, still going strong at 83 years old.

[Just looking]

This comment is a dumb as the comment you made below about Floyd having to fight Canelo at 160. Ask yourself an important question about why you feel American fighters need to go above and beyond.. but others.. (Inoue) for example only need to do 60% of the work before you crown them. Then ask yourself and others why you’re so hesitant to see a P4P American.

Go look at the odds for Crawford vs Gamboa, Crawford vs Prescott, Crawford vs Postol, Crawford vs Porter & Crawford vs Spence. All those fights were perceived as more of a threat on paper than anyone Inoue has fought. Even Fulton was a 4/1 underdog. So if Bud beats Spence.. he needs to move up and fight Charlo and become a 3 weight undisputed champion just to get be received as Pound For Pound number 1 in your eyes? Comedy gold. Spence’s resumè is 1000 times better than Inoue’s without a shadow of a doubt.

Spence's best win is Porter, a guy who lost every big fight of his career. Inoue isn't threatened by his opponents like Bud because he IS all that

[_Rexy_]

first time I remember seeing crawford was on a night of boxing after dark against Breidis Prescott.....following that fight we started calling him "Sweet T" as a play on Sweet Pea

I'm not sure the first fight I saw Bud. But he had twists/dreads, and I think he was 11-0 or something around that.

[crold1]

Who are you picking, crold1 ?




The weight span is slightly more, but the opponent quality is lesser.

Fulton is Inoue’s best win over a prime opponent.

Still not sure on Saturday.

And thanks for all the kind words from all on this and the last few pieces. Lot of research into these.

[messi807]

Great article,

As this is a p4p discussion, atm i have a top 2... Usyk & Inoue simply because you don't get any I'm the A-side marrinating bs from either of them. Who's the best? I want him....That's legacy.

Spence Crawford should be on they're 2nd or 3rd fight & in a different division already. Instead they've been arguing over who chooses the carpet pile & the d****s for 3 fekin year's.

Bob out

I agree with the last quote. I got Uysk behind Bud though. He’s been at HW for 5 years since 2018 and his best win is Joshua, who is long past his best and is gun shy. Bud stopping Porter is a much better W for me.

[messi807]

Spence's best win is Porter, a guy who lost every big fight of his career. Inoue isn't threatened by his opponents like Bud because he IS all that

Porter-Brook, Porter-Thurman all could’ve gone either way. He gave Spence hell & beat up Danny. Criminally underrated.. there isn’t a fighter that’s looked ‘great against him’.

[messi807]

Fulton beat more undefeated fighters than anyone on the p4p list. Crawford’s resume weak as hell and Spence is still in his original weightclass. Regardless of what happens Saturday, Inoue is very clearly the best boxer on this planet.

Let’s see if you just made a valid statement there or you're just pushing lies.. so let’s explore the comment you made about Fulton beating more undefeated fighters than anyone on the P4P list. If you look carefully you’ll find out Fulton has only beaten ONE undefeated champion or former undefeated champion who is Brandon Figueroa in a fight that could’ve gone either way. Terence Crawford has beaten FIVE undefeated champions or former champions, with Spence being the SIXTH if he wins. The stat you just mentioned actually looks bad then it does good.

Moving on:

Let’s compare Inoue & Bud’s resume (presuming Bud beats Spence) as you clearly said he’d still be below Inoue.

Bud’s resume:

Spence
Shawn Porter
Viktor Postol
Yuriokia Gamboa
Kell Brook
Amir Khan
Kavaliauskias
Jeff Horn
Benavidez Jr
Felix Diaz
Ray Beltran
Ricky Burns

Inoue’s resume:

Stephen Fulton
Nonito Donaire
Paul Butler
Aran Dirapaen
Michael Dasmarinas
Omar Narvaez
Juan Payano
Yoan Boyeaux
Kohei Kono
Jason Moloney
Ryochi Taguchi
David Carmona
James McDonnell
Rodriguez

Now you explain to me how Crawford’s resume is VERY bad and Inoue’s isn’t. Your bias knows no bounds, you guys don’t even hide it. Most of you are American which makes it worse.

Lastly -
Spence is still in his original weight class.. yet Golovkin was crowned P4P #1 after beating David Lemieux a deer in headlights and staying at 160 for 17 years. I honestly don’t understand why it strikes so much fear in you guys having an American P4P #1 it must be the Mayweather PTSD.

[messi807]

If spence best pac, that would've been his best win just about. Spences resume isn't all that.
Bud needs to best Charlo or Tim tzsyu if he wants to be seen to be doing what Inoue is doing. No more tit for tat, just make a statement, don't leave arguments, rather than failing to convince people that campaigning in your 3rd weight division for 5 years to beat spence is equal to what Inoue is doing.
Bud don't need 5 years to beat spence, spence isn't that scary.! Bud shouldve beat spence 3 years ago at the very least and then thered be no problem fighting Charlo in 1st fight at LMW

LOL. Spence beat the living day light’s out of the guy Pac got outboxed by. So how does that work? Bud only moved up 5 years ago. Fight should’ve happened in 2021, but it didn’t oh well. I’m sure you don’t have the same energy for Bivol - Beterbiev, you’ll probably blame that on a promoter. One guy is nearly 40 and the other about 34.

[BlackRobb]

True, that's why bud beating spence doesn't quite get him to Inoues level. I want bud to do exactly what Inouev does to get my respect. Bud needs to fight charlo in his first fight at light.middleweight.
Of course bud won't do it, yet wants Inoue level respect?

Except for one thing: Jermell is never fighting at 154 again. Sounds to me like you're already discrediting Crawford's inevitable victory tomorrow night.