Comments Thread For: De La Hoya On Final Fight, Loss To Pacquiao: I Was Hoping To Get Knocked Out, Was Drunk During Camp

[Bronx2245]

yeah at 154!! LOL!! where as oscar called pac out to fight at 147... you see the difference? LOL...

There are a lot of differences! Canelo was much younger than Floyd, and he wanted the BIG DOG, so he had to do what Floyd wanted, just like when Oscar was the BIG DOG, Floyd had to do what Oscar wanted! However, the selective outrage is obvious! No one cared when Oscar made the demands, but when Floyd was able to call shots, he got all the hate!

Manny was so beloved that NO ONE cared that Cotto had to go to 145, or that Oscar came to 147!

It's all good though! In the end, my man Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Canelo at 152, and Manny at 147! Haters just have to deal with that!

[Bronx2245]

cotto last fight was at 146, pac fought him at 145 = 1 pound different.

canelo last fight was at 154, floyd fought him at 152 = 2 pound different.

Cotto came in at 146, but the CONTRACTED weight limit was 147!

Cotto's pride prevented Pac rematch
October 5, 2012

But Cotto, a promotional free agent who had spent his entire career with Top Rank (aside from his May fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.) had other ideas. Sure, Cotto was open to facing Pacquiao again -- and when has Cotto ever ducked a tough opponent? -- but he is also a proud man.

Feeling disrespected, Cotto refused to take a deal that wasn't to his liking and rejected Arum's offer. Instead, he decided to work again with Golden Boy, which put on the Mayweather fight, and accepted a fight with junior middleweight titlist Austin Trout for far less money.

They will meet Dec. 1 (Showtime) at New York's Madison Square Garden -- Cotto's home away from home -- which always rocks with his Puerto Rican fans when he fights there. It will be Cotto's eighth fight at the Garden, where his record is perfect (8-0, 4 KOs).

Why would Cotto pick Trout (25-0, 14 KOs), a good fighter with a belt but a virtual unknown, over Pacquiao, the global star? What gives?

Money and weight is what gives.

For the 2009 fight, Cotto's deal with Top Rank called for a guaranteed $6.5 million purse, plus a share of the pay-per-view profits. During the Sergio Martinez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. promotion last month, Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

"The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight."

Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

"Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

"Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."

Even if the money could have been worked out, Cotto said the weight was a major issue.

For the 2009 bout he had agreed to go down to 145 pounds, two less than the welterweight limit, and said it took its toll. If he had taken the rematch at 150, it would mean dropping 4 pounds below the junior middleweight limit, which is where Cotto has fought his four bouts since his loss to Pacquiao.

"If he wants a big name and wants to fight the best, no catchweight," Cotto said of Pacquiao. "Making catchweights is easy for them. They make the other guy have trouble making weight and they take advantage of that. I wasn't going to do that again. I am 154 pounds. I am not going to fight at a catchweight and make myself weak."

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...rematch-boxing

[Gamer30168]

I still like De La Hoya as a fighter. I'm not too enamored with his ego though...that being said he perhaps was a little over the hill by the time he fought Mayweather and Pacquiao but in the Mayweather fight DLH fought like he wanted something, and even though he lost, he still made it a great fight. You could say he went out on his shield. He looked beyond washed against Pacquiao....sometimes the ego makes a man fight long after he should

[Fanofreason]

Oscar came off really bad in that HBO series. He is pretty much a pathological liar.

[Boxing 112]

Pacquiao drained him like a coward.

Like Mayweather did to Canelo..

[EmpiresBoxing]

This pacquiao guy was just a giant slayer.

[Floyd is TBE]

Like Mayweather did to Canelo..

Mayweather was the older fighter meeting the young lion in the middle. Pacquiao was the younger fighter that needed an advantage over an old and washed ODH. That's the difference. Pacquiao is a coward. Y'all sound pathetic trying to defend his bull****.

[Brittney1229]

Pac was on PED's. He didn't dare to be great. He was a cheater.

Where's your proof? He was never suspended for PEDs.

[IceTrayDaGang]

There are a lot of differences! Canelo was much younger than Floyd, and he wanted the BIG DOG, so he had to do what Floyd wanted, just like when Oscar was the BIG DOG, Floyd had to do what Oscar wanted! However, the selective outrage is obvious! No one cared when Oscar made the demands, but when Floyd was able to call shots, he got all the hate!

Manny was so beloved that NO ONE cared that Cotto had to go to 145, or that Oscar came to 147!

It's all good though! In the end, my man Floyd beat Oscar at 154, Cotto at 154, Canelo at 152, and Manny at 147! Haters just have to deal with that!

blah blah blah blah blah... doesnt change the fact that oscar called pac out to come fight at 147 and canelo wanted to fight floyd at 154.

[WholeSoul75]

Nah bro, 154lbs, 5' 11" was calling out 135lbs 5'5" Pacquiao! Even Freddie Roach thought it was preposterous at first. Oscar was the favorite to blow Pacquiao out. Pac didn't ask for the fight, Oscar did! He found out quick he could handle the speed Pac brought. Pac didn't duck anyone in his career. He dared to be great and fought everyone who was much bigger than a guy who started at 118lbs

Those metrics are an undesirable spar. Let alone fight.