Comments Thread For: Tim Bradley: We Can't Ask The Judge How He [Scored] The Fight; Biggest Issue In Boxing

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  • garfios
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    #31
    Originally posted by TreD

    I agree with your quote, with the inclusion that, since these judges are not being held accountable, and we have amplified proof of this occuring frequently, you have to adjust to reality.

    This was a huge fight for Maxi Hughes. Even if he ran out of gas by the 3rd round, on that night, he should have given everything he had, because, with boxing as it currently is politically, there is always a chance for a robbery on the scorecards

    It shouldn't be that way, but because it is, give it all you have, so you know, I didn't leave it up to the judges- or else, unfortunately.
    I know what you mean, but fighters are naive and they're going to do what works for them. I remember the Trout vs ginger, sorry for bringing canelo back, it was an open scoring type of fight, Trout was so down on the scores(he shouldn't have been that down) that he went after canelo and almost got ktfo. So what he was doing was working, not in the crooked eyes of the judges, he went out of his way to make up for the scoring and went down hard, and still the fight in everyone eyes was close. Now, what would you prefer? Getting a moral victory, or get ktfo and giving them the satisfaction of a ko win?

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    • The D3vil
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      #32
      Originally posted by garfios

      The media should go after them, never seen a media guy asking a judge about a score. And that would be a good journalism and something new. We should ask the media why they don't go after crooked judges.
      Hey, I forget which fight that was where Teddy Atlas straight bumrushed one of them and made them explain their score & they found out the judge had calculated wrong.

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      • TreD
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        #33
        Originally posted by garfios
        I know what you mean, but fighters are naive and they're going to do what works for them. I remember the Trout vs ginger, sorry for bringing canelo back, it was an open scoring type of fight, Trout was so down on the scores(he shouldn't have been that down) that he went after canelo and almost got ktfo. So what he was doing was working, not in the crooked eyes of the judges, he went out of his way to make up for the scoring and went down hard, and still the fight in everyone eyes was close. Now, what would you prefer? Getting a moral victory, or get ktfo and giving them the satisfaction of a ko win?
        Lmao the ginger! If it's for a world title, or anything close, getting ktfo and the moral victory of knowing I gave it everything I had, and it wasn't enough, but I tried my hardest. I wouldn't want to have any ifs, ands or buts.

        I hope we can make enough noise that these judges become accountable. The sport needs cleaned up, dramatically.

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          #34
          Originally posted by SteveM

          yeah - there's a bit of hypocrisy there but the point Tim is making supersedes it
          Does that also include Ruslan Provodnikov? Because Bradley lost that fight too.

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          • garfios
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            #35
            Originally posted by The D3vil

            Hey, I forget which fight that was where Teddy Atlas straight bumrushed one of them and made them explain their score & they found out the judge had calculated wrong.
            You remember that, Teddy has been questioning judges and bad decisions since they put a microphone in front of him. Love him or hate him, he is a boxer advocate.

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            • garfios
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              #36
              Originally posted by TreD

              Lmao the ginger! If it's for a world title, or anything close, getting ktfo and the moral victory of knowing I gave it everything I had, and it wasn't enough, but I tried my hardest. I wouldn't want to have any ifs, ands or buts.

              I hope we can make enough noise that these judges become accountable. The sport needs cleaned up, dramatically.
              The media has brought down governments, see Watergate, If they really want to do good by the fighter, judges hold on to your pants.

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                #37
                I've been preaching this a lot lately. If we could put judges on the spot to either address the crowd while they're in the ring or even at the post fight press conference, I think it will clean up maybe 80% of bad decisions. Not all of course, but a lot. If judges know that they're going to be put on blast and have to look like a moron in front of an audience or questions, they just might think twice about favoring a fighter and giving him rounds that he clearly did not win.

                These dudes can literally ruin a fighter's career for future paydays and walk out of the building to their cars. Probably with a smirk on their face that they had that much power to do something like that. I know, not all, but how many countless times again, we've heard of similar judges providing a similar bad score?

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