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  • #21
    Originally posted by alexjust View Post
    Asking judges will not solve anything. A judge will answer and then what? Bad decisions must be reversed by commissions and judges who make outrageous decisions should be banned from judging high profile fights or maybe even and fights.
    The commissions are the problem - the Oklahoma commission doesn't get many 'big' fights and they want more. When promoters have an A side such as Kambosos and they have big money making fights lined up they need to know that he is going to win! That is more easily accomplished by putting the fight in some back end of nowhere place where the commission is more 'malleable'

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    • #22
      Originally posted by InfDayz View Post
      *Manny Pacquiao stare* Oh really Tim Bradley?
      yeah - there's a bit of hypocrisy there but the point Tim is making supersedes it
      joesaiditstrue joesaiditstrue likes this.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by garfios View Post

        A journalist doesn't need permission to harass those judges, they can put a camera and a microphone on front of their faces and ask the questions, let the world to see how they react. You go to their home and start recording how they hide, and put it on the news, you burn them so the powers to be have to find others corrupt judges, let's see which one of them would sign up seeing the heat that their predecessor's got. But ain't going to happen, do you know why? Because the writers don't want to lose their free passes and other perks. Yes, thousands of articles, but they need to put a face on it. Be safe.
        what you say is valid but in the end you conclude it won't happen

        I hope the Saudis inject so much money into boxing that it's a game changer. Because of their sports washing they need to keep the actual sport squeaky clean with correct judging etc - the promoters would not get a look in regards influencing fights. Of course, you could say that Top Rank and the rest won't stage fights in the Middle East but fighters will leave them and sign up with a Saudi promoter if there's double/triple the money.
        MulaKO MulaKO likes this.

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        • #24
          There's A side, and then there's B side..

          If you're coming into a fight as the B side, you should already be mindful that, regardless of your performance, if the fight goes the distance, you are likely to be robbed.

          Do the judges need to be held accountable? Yes

          Do B side fighters need to leave every ounce of energy in the ring, attempting to knock their opponent out, so as to avoid being robbed? Yes

          Maxi should have laid George out cold..

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Oregonian View Post
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            What is BIZARRE is you getting triggered with my comment. This is despite the fact that I started with acknowledging that Bradley was right.
            And then you proceed with the “are you one of those …” ignoring the fact that I agreed with Bradley.
            Very bizarre
            everyone agrees with me bro, why did you even bring up him getting a gift decision, what does that have to do with anything

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            • #26
              Originally posted by SteveM View Post

              what you say is valid but in the end you conclude it won't happen

              I hope the Saudis inject so much money into boxing that it's a game changer. Because of their sports washing they need to keep the actual sport squeaky clean with correct judging etc - the promoters would not get a look in regards influencing fights. Of course, you could say that Top Rank and the rest won't stage fights in the Middle East but fighters will leave them and sign up with a Saudi promoter if there's double/triple the money.
              More money, corruption would find its way. You put a face on the corruption, things would get better. Especially in high profile fights.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by TreD View Post
                There's A side, and then there's B side..

                If you're coming into a fight as the B side, you should already be mindful that, regardless of your performance, if the fight goes the distance, you are likely to be robbed.

                Do the judges need to be held accountable? Yes

                Do B side fighters need to leave every ounce of energy in the ring, attempting to knock their opponent out, so as to avoid being robbed? Yes

                Maxi should have laid George out cold..
                No, I don't agree with you. first, by writing this you're approving this behavior. Yes because we know this is a norm we don't have to like it. We should be talking about the corruption, not the boxer that got screwed. Maybe going all out would have got him ko, that wasn't his game. If he outclassed his opponent his arm should have been raised, period.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Post

                  everyone agrees with me bro, why did you even bring up him getting a gift decision, what does that have to do with anything
                  ———
                  Kamboso is adamant that he won. Do you agree with Kamboso?
                  Bradley was adamant that he beat PAC. Did you agree with him?
                  In a year’s time when Kamboso is an analyst for a fight where there is a clear robbery and he addresses it as unfair, are you going ridicule anyone who points out Kamboso’s gift decision and the way he refused to accept that he lost?

                  My point is pretty obvious, context and historical facts matter.

                  A different example for you; how many times have you heard Fox News anchors ridicule ***** while praising Trump for doing or saying the same thing?

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by alexjust View Post
                    Asking judges will not solve anything. A judge will answer and then what? Bad decisions must be reversed by commissions and judges who make outrageous decisions should be banned from judging high profile fights or maybe even and fights.
                    Yes, let's hear what he have to say. I think the one that scored a draw in fraud vs ginger retire, she got a lot of backslash from the media. Why nobody ask the guy that scored 9 rounds for ginger vs Lara, why did he do it. Or haney vs Loma, hey there's a ton of fights that should be look into.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by garfios View Post

                      No, I don't agree with you. first, by writing this you're approving this behavior. Yes because we know this is a norm we don't have to like it. We should be talking about the corruption, not the boxer that got screwed. Maybe going all out would have got him ko, that wasn't his game. If he outclassed his opponent his arm should have been raised, period.
                      I agree with your quote, with the inclusion that, since these judges are not being held accountable, and we have amplified proof of this occuring frequently, you have to adjust to reality.

                      This was a huge fight for Maxi Hughes. Even if he ran out of gas by the 3rd round, on that night, he should have given everything he had, because, with boxing as it currently is politically, there is always a chance for a robbery on the scorecards

                      It shouldn't be that way, but because it is, give it all you have, so you know, I didn't leave it up to the judges- or else, unfortunately.

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