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  • The D3vil
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    #11
    Of course he is.

    He's an all-time great amateur with an all-time great jab and all-time great chin.

    He's in the tier below Hagler, Monzon, Robinson, Greb, and a few others.

    He would've given Hopkins hell.

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    • satiev1
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      #12
      Only in the sport of boxing do fans ignore reign and consistency. To them it's all about how good you were for a short period of time.

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      • Willow The Wisp
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        #13
        You make a good point, and I certainly place the well traveled GGG among the all-time elite Middleweight champions, and good for him for not having to jump around divisions, making him easy to place as a career Middleweight.

        Not to be a sourpuss (I can't help it), but anybody who "Never heard of" guys like Soldier Bartfield, George Chip, Pete Latzo; fighters probably better known to the general public in their day than Golovkin is today; are folks who may be out of their depth talking boxing history.

        My 2 cents (and worth every penny):


        1. Sam Langford
        2. Harry Greb
        3. Sugar Ray Robinson
        4. Carlos Monzon
        5. "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler
        6. Stanley Ketchel
        7. Bob Fitzsimmons
        8. Marcel Cerdan
        9. "Sugar" Ray Leonard
        10. Roy Jones Jr.
        11.Mickey Walker
        12.Mike Gibbons
        13.Bernard Hopkins
        14.Jack “The Nonpareil” Dempsey
        15.Gennadiy Golovkin
        16.Jake LaMotta
        17.Freddie Steel
        18.Thomas Hearns
        19.Tiger Flowers
        20.Tony Zale
        21.Charley Burley
        22.Tommy Ryan
        23.Marcel Thil
        24.Charles "Kid" McCoy
        25.Georges Carpentier
        26.Rocky Graziano
        27.Jeff Smith
        28.**** Tiger
        29.Roberto Duran
        30.Mike McCallum
        31.Billy Papke
        32.Gene Fullmer
        33.Holman Williams
        34.Mike O’Dowd
        35.Les Darcy
        36.Eddie McGootry
        37.Emile Griffith
        38.Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
        39.Eddie Booker
        40.Frank Klaus
        41.Al Hostak
        42.Buck Crouse
        43.Georgie Abrams
        44.Lou Brouillard
        45.Jimmy Clabby
        46.Leo Houck
        47.Vince Dundee
        48.Rodrigo Valdez
        49.Mike McCallum
        50.Teddy Yarosz
        51.Nino Benvenuti
        52.Joey Giardello
        53.James Toney
        54.Ken Overlin
        55.Al McCoy
        56.Carmen Basilio
        57."Bad" Benny Briscoe
        58.Sergio Martinez
        59.Laszlo Papp
        60.Mike O'Dowd
        61.Julian Jackson
        62.George Chip
        63.Lloyd Marshall
        64.Carl "Bobo" Olsen
        65.Ceferino Garcia
        66.Fred Apostoli
        67.Gustav Scholz
        68.Kelly Pavlik
        69.Michael Nunn
        70.Randy Turpin
        71.Charles Humez
        72.Chris Eubank
        73.Sumbu Kalambay
        74.Nigel Benn
        75.Johnny Wilson
        76.Alan Minter
        77.Ace Hudkins
        78.Gerald McClellan
        79.Paul Pender
        80.Arthur Abraham
        81.Robert Villemain
        82.Ronald "Winky" Wright
        83.Jermall Charlo
        84.Vito Antuofermo
        85.Rene DeVos
        86.Jack Chase
        87.Hugo Corro
        88.Terry Downs
        89.Holly Mims
        90.Miguel Cotto
        91.Dave Sands
        92.Hugo Kelly
        93.Jock "Rochdale Thunderbolt" McAvoy
        94."Cyclone" Johnny Thompson
        95.Dave Shade
        95.George Benton
        97.Clarence Alabama Kid
        98."Allentown" Joe Gans
        99.Young Ahearn
        100.Mike Donovan
        101.Jermain Taylor
        102.Ben "Belter" Brown
        103.Steve Collins
        104.Denny "Bulldog" Harrington
        105.Leo Lomski
        106.John "The Beast" Mugabi
        107.Frank Moody
        108.William "Gorilla" Jones
        109.Kenny Watkins
        110.George Rooke
        111.Evelio "Kid" Turnero
        112.Frank Battaglia
        113.Johnny Howard
        114.John David Jackson
        115.Frankie Schoell
        116.Elsworth "Spider" Webb
        117.Joey Archer
        118.Steve Belloise
        119.Antonio Fernandez
        120.Billy Soose
        121.Mustafa Hamsho
        122.Eduardo Lausse
        123.Ignasio Ara
        124.Ruben "Hurricane" Carter
        125.Jean Claude Bouttier
        126.Edward McGlinchey
        127.Percey "Pal" Reed
        128.Rory Calhoun
        129.Ben Jeby
        130.Cyrille Delannoit
        131.Ralph "Tiger" Jones
        132.Rocky Castellani
        133.Bobby Boyd
        134.Jackie Clark
        135.Bobby "Boogaloo" Watts
        136.Herol "Bomber" Graham
        137.Jock Malone
        138.Laurent Dauthuille
        139.Bert Lytell
        140.Charley Joseph
        141.Floentino Fernandez
        142.Tiberio Mitri
        143.Juan Domingo Roldan
        144.Yama Bahama
        145.Willie "The Worm" Monroe
        146.Tony Mundine Sr.
        147.Fred Henneberry
        148.Willis "Shorty" Hogue
        149.Solly Krieger
        150.Reggie Johnson
        151.Jack Hood
        152.Gratien Tonna
        153.Babe Risko
        154.Felix Sturm
        155.Kell Brook
        156.Paul Pirrone
        157.William Joppy
        158.**** Turpin
        159.Tony Sibson
        160.Luis Folledo
        161."Sugar" Ray Seales
        162.Dwight Davidson
        163.Tom Bogs
        164.Carmen Barth
        165.Sam Soliman
        166.Keith Holmes
        167.Tony Licata
        168.Daniel Jacobs
        169.Ossie Stewart
        170.Salvatore Affinito
        171.Lamar Parks
        172.Artie Townie
        173.Gene "Silent" Hairston
        174.Daniel Geale
        175.Miguel de Oliveira
        176.Curtis Parker
        177.Young Terry
        178."Dangerous" Don Lee
        179.Meyer Grace
        180.Joe "Bolo" Blackwood
        181.Al Trainor
        182.Rosy Baker
        183.Marco Antonio Rubio
        184.Howard Eastman
        185.Mel "Killer" Brown
        186.Gomeo Brennan
        187.Walter Cartier
        188.Eugene "Cyclone" Hart
        189.Wilford Scypion
        190.Joe Carter
        191.Nasim Max Cohen
        192.Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
        193.Atilio Sabatino
        191.William "Caveman" Lee
        192.Jackie Burke
        193.Hacine Cherifi
        194.Harry Balsamo
        195.Jorge Castro
        196.David Lemieux
        197.Grzegorz Proksa
        198.Johnny Rossi
        199.Martin Murray
        200.Kid Leonard. Tied with.......
        **Erich Seelig
        **Michael Watson
        **Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
        **Sammy Slaughter
        **Sebastian Zbik
        **Norman Conrad
        **Al Webster
        **Jorge Basora
        **Enzo Fiermonte
        **Kevin Finnegan
        **Coley Welch
        **Milford "Sweed" Berglund
        **Frank "The Animal" Fletcher
        **Jean Despeaux
        **Fulgencio Obelmejias
        **Frank Goosby
        **Jim Sullivan
        **Gus Campbell
        **James Shuler
        **Al Trulmans
        **Rafael Gutierrez
        **Jimmy Smith
        **Ralph Chong
        **Speedy Sparks
        **Gus Christie
        **Tom Lancaster​

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        • Dr. Z
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          #14
          Originally posted by Willow The Wisp
          You make a good point, and I certainly place the well traveled GGG among the all-time elite Middleweight champions, and good for him for not having to jump around divisions, making him easy to place as a career Middleweight.

          Not to be a sourpuss (I can't help it), but anybody who "Never heard of" guys like Soldier Bartfield, George Chip, Pete Latzo; fighters probably better known to the general public in their day than Golovkin is today; are folks who may be out of their depth talking boxing history.

          My 2 cents (and worth every penny):


          1. Sam Langford
          2. Harry Greb
          3. Sugar Ray Robinson
          4. Carlos Monzon
          5. "Marvelous" Marvin Hagler
          6. Stanley Ketchel
          7. Bob Fitzsimmons
          8. Marcel Cerdan
          9. "Sugar" Ray Leonard
          10. Roy Jones Jr.
          11.Mickey Walker
          12.Mike Gibbons
          13.Bernard Hopkins
          14.Jack “The Nonpareil” Dempsey
          15.Gennadiy Golovkin
          16.Jake LaMotta
          17.Freddie Steel
          18.Thomas Hearns
          19.Tiger Flowers
          20.Tony Zale
          21.Charley Burley
          22.Tommy Ryan
          23.Marcel Thil
          24.Charles "Kid" McCoy
          25.Georges Carpentier
          26.Rocky Graziano
          27.Jeff Smith
          28.**** Tiger
          29.Roberto Duran
          30.Mike McCallum
          31.Billy Papke
          32.Gene Fullmer
          33.Holman Williams
          34.Mike O’Dowd
          35.Les Darcy
          36.Eddie McGootry
          37.Emile Griffith
          38.Saul "Canelo" Alvarez
          39.Eddie Booker
          40.Frank Klaus
          41.Al Hostak
          42.Buck Crouse
          43.Georgie Abrams
          44.Lou Brouillard
          45.Jimmy Clabby
          46.Leo Houck
          47.Vince Dundee
          48.Rodrigo Valdez
          49.Mike McCallum
          50.Teddy Yarosz
          51.Nino Benvenuti
          52.Joey Giardello
          53.James Toney
          54.Ken Overlin
          55.Al McCoy
          56.Carmen Basilio
          57."Bad" Benny Briscoe
          58.Sergio Martinez
          59.Laszlo Papp
          60.Mike O'Dowd
          61.Julian Jackson
          62.George Chip
          63.Lloyd Marshall
          64.Carl "Bobo" Olsen
          65.Ceferino Garcia
          66.Fred Apostoli
          67.Gustav Scholz
          68.Kelly Pavlik
          69.Michael Nunn
          70.Randy Turpin
          71.Charles Humez
          72.Chris Eubank
          73.Sumbu Kalambay
          74.Nigel Benn
          75.Johnny Wilson
          76.Alan Minter
          77.Ace Hudkins
          78.Gerald McClellan
          79.Paul Pender
          80.Arthur Abraham
          81.Robert Villemain
          82.Ronald "Winky" Wright
          83.Jermall Charlo
          84.Vito Antuofermo
          85.Rene DeVos
          86.Jack Chase
          87.Hugo Corro
          88.Terry Downs
          89.Holly Mims
          90.Miguel Cotto
          91.Dave Sands
          92.Hugo Kelly
          93.Jock "Rochdale Thunderbolt" McAvoy
          94."Cyclone" Johnny Thompson
          95.Dave Shade
          95.George Benton
          97.Clarence Alabama Kid
          98."Allentown" Joe Gans
          99.Young Ahearn
          100.Mike Donovan
          101.Jermain Taylor
          102.Ben "Belter" Brown
          103.Steve Collins
          104.Denny "Bulldog" Harrington
          105.Leo Lomski
          106.John "The Beast" Mugabi
          107.Frank Moody
          108.William "Gorilla" Jones
          109.Kenny Watkins
          110.George Rooke
          111.Evelio "Kid" Turnero
          112.Frank Battaglia
          113.Johnny Howard
          114.John David Jackson
          115.Frankie Schoell
          116.Elsworth "Spider" Webb
          117.Joey Archer
          118.Steve Belloise
          119.Antonio Fernandez
          120.Billy Soose
          121.Mustafa Hamsho
          122.Eduardo Lausse
          123.Ignasio Ara
          124.Ruben "Hurricane" Carter
          125.Jean Claude Bouttier
          126.Edward McGlinchey
          127.Percey "Pal" Reed
          128.Rory Calhoun
          129.Ben Jeby
          130.Cyrille Delannoit
          131.Ralph "Tiger" Jones
          132.Rocky Castellani
          133.Bobby Boyd
          134.Jackie Clark
          135.Bobby "Boogaloo" Watts
          136.Herol "Bomber" Graham
          137.Jock Malone
          138.Laurent Dauthuille
          139.Bert Lytell
          140.Charley Joseph
          141.Floentino Fernandez
          142.Tiberio Mitri
          143.Juan Domingo Roldan
          144.Yama Bahama
          145.Willie "The Worm" Monroe
          146.Tony Mundine Sr.
          147.Fred Henneberry
          148.Willis "Shorty" Hogue
          149.Solly Krieger
          150.Reggie Johnson
          151.Jack Hood
          152.Gratien Tonna
          153.Babe Risko
          154.Felix Sturm
          155.Kell Brook
          156.Paul Pirrone
          157.William Joppy
          158.**** Turpin
          159.Tony Sibson
          160.Luis Folledo
          161."Sugar" Ray Seales
          162.Dwight Davidson
          163.Tom Bogs
          164.Carmen Barth
          165.Sam Soliman
          166.Keith Holmes
          167.Tony Licata
          168.Daniel Jacobs
          169.Ossie Stewart
          170.Salvatore Affinito
          171.Lamar Parks
          172.Artie Townie
          173.Gene "Silent" Hairston
          174.Daniel Geale
          175.Miguel de Oliveira
          176.Curtis Parker
          177.Young Terry
          178."Dangerous" Don Lee
          179.Meyer Grace
          180.Joe "Bolo" Blackwood
          181.Al Trainor
          182.Rosy Baker
          183.Marco Antonio Rubio
          184.Howard Eastman
          185.Mel "Killer" Brown
          186.Gomeo Brennan
          187.Walter Cartier
          188.Eugene "Cyclone" Hart
          189.Wilford Scypion
          190.Joe Carter
          191.Nasim Max Cohen
          192.Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.
          193.Atilio Sabatino
          191.William "Caveman" Lee
          192.Jackie Burke
          193.Hacine Cherifi
          194.Harry Balsamo
          195.Jorge Castro
          196.David Lemieux
          197.Grzegorz Proksa
          198.Johnny Rossi
          199.Martin Murray
          200.Kid Leonard. Tied with.......
          **Erich Seelig
          **Michael Watson
          **Hassan N'Dam N'Jikam
          **Sammy Slaughter
          **Sebastian Zbik
          **Norman Conrad
          **Al Webster
          **Jorge Basora
          **Enzo Fiermonte
          **Kevin Finnegan
          **Coley Welch
          **Milford "Sweed" Berglund
          **Frank "The Animal" Fletcher
          **Jean Despeaux
          **Fulgencio Obelmejias
          **Frank Goosby
          **Jim Sullivan
          **Gus Campbell
          **James Shuler
          **Al Trulmans
          **Rafael Gutierrez
          **Jimmy Smith
          **Ralph Chong
          **Speedy Sparks
          **Gus Christie
          **Tom Lancaster​
          " Bolo " above " Killer "? Please explain? Like now. Only kidding. You have GGG in the top 15 too.

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