Floyd's Too Good For Any WW

[tito yuca]

we were discussing whether he challenged floyd or not, and that quote answer that question. regardless of the reasons behind it, cotto called out mayweather

but lets go back to 140 if you think that my quote is arum's opinion:

True, but the first article you quoted didn't show that, and you were saying it did. I wasn't making excuses for Floyd not fighting Cotto, I was just explaining why Cotto said what he did. That's great if he called him out, even you said you think he'd lose to Floyd, so who cares? It would be another win for Floyd and he'd get called "boring" again and get **** from everyone if he doesn't knock Cotto out. He can never win; the haters have their minds made up. They said they'd give him credit if he beat Oscar after giving up all the advantages, but that hasn't happened.

And about that thing you quoted, that might be what Cotto was saying at the time, but we all know Arum didn't Floyd to fight Cotto at 140, and Cotto himself didn't want to fight Floyd after he saw what he did to Gatti. The fight didn't happen for the very reason Cotto said "When the company says the time is right to make the fight, I’ll fight him." That means they NEVER thought it would be smart to put them together.

[tito yuca]

That's not my logic at all, let him fight some of them or whatever good his talent is don't mean ****. this is all im gonna reply back to ya since ur arguments are always based on going against whatever people tell ya. so it is pointless to even say this

LOL isn't that what an argument is? I've yet to hear about an argument in which both parties agree...

[baracuda]

ts means too scared for any ww....

[tito yuca]

i'm not blaming floyd. it's obvious that it's marquez responsibility, but it's also obvious that his natural weight class was 130, as he pointed out after the diaz fight

he built up muscle to try a jump to the 140's naturally, and he failed miserably. however, that was his best shot at having a chance

he had to go up at least 10 pounds (140 was the min. weight) north of his current natural weight class to meet with floyd. floyd had to go 1 pound (148) over his current natural weight class when he fought DLH

If his fight night weight for his 130 and 135 was the low 140s, he didn't have to go up an ounce. Before that fight, Floyd was under 150 in all of his bouts. That would amount to less than a 10 pound difference between the two, with Marquez at the same weight in which he looked good in. I hardly see that as a huge mismatch. Baldomir weighed 163 vs. Floyd, and Oscar was at 167. Floyd was 149 vs. Baldy and 148 vs. Oscar, a 14 and 19-pound difference, respectively.

[tito yuca]

Floyd and his fans are just like what rappers refer to as studio gangsters. They talk about Floyd accomplishing ****, but it never happens. What happened to the quote, "You give me any fighter from 154 down and I'll beat em?" Where are these fighters on his resume? Where's Vernon Forrest, Paul Williams, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Miguel Cotto (when he was undefeated)? I think Cotto isn't the same fighter as before though.

ANY fighter, not EVERY fighter. Marquez, Oscar, Baldomir, Hatton, Judah, aren't these guys below 154? This is just what I was saying, the haters will always find someone else that he is "ducking". Even if he beat all those guys you'd talk about Berto or Collazo or some other fool like that.

[El Angel]

Could all be true. But you get credit for fighting the fights, not saying you'd win, but by actually doing it.

[VipersThunder]

Judging from his size at the JMM fight plus his speed, I say he's too good for any welterweight. Paul Williams MIGHT could beat him but I think the majority thinks PWill is not interested in 147 anymore. Zab was beating Cotto for awhile, Pac would have the same disadvantages that JMM had (except Pac would be dangerous in the early rounds.) Floyd would take over after 5.

Mosley is a shadow of what he once was. Size wise and skill wise he's the most competitive fight out there, but his reflexes can't match Floyd's. Clottey would be a tough test (I thought Clottey beat Cotto), but Cotto knocked Clottey on his ass with a jab. Clottey had no answer to Zab until Zab burned himself out, and got cut. It will be a cold day in hell before Floyd gets tired.

Floyd beats anybody at 147.

Well talk is cheap, Lets see him do it.

[VipersThunder]

Could all be true. But you get credit for fighting the fights, not saying you'd win, but by actually doing it.

Who's the girl in your sig bro?

[fdotorres]

True, but the first article you quoted didn't show that, and you were saying it did. I wasn't making excuses for Floyd not fighting Cotto, I was just explaining why Cotto said what he did. That's great if he called him out, even you said you think he'd lose to Floyd, so who cares? It would be another win for Floyd and he'd get called "boring" again and get **** from everyone if he doesn't knock Cotto out. He can never win; the haters have their minds made up. They said they'd give him credit if he beat Oscar after giving up all the advantages, but that hasn't happened.

And about that thing you quoted, that might be what Cotto was saying at the time, but we all know Arum didn't Floyd to fight Cotto at 140, and Cotto himself didn't want to fight Floyd after he saw what he did to Gatti. The fight didn't happen for the very reason Cotto said "When the company says the time is right to make the fight, I’ll fight him." That means they NEVER thought it would be smart to put them together.

i also said it would be competitive, which is what good fights are about, and why floyd gets so much heat since he moved up to 140 pounds

do you want to know floyd's reaction during the same time cotto said what i quoted?

“Cotto needs a couple more tune-ups. Right now he’s a little too green,” Mayweather said.

floyd didn't really duck cotto at 140, but neither did cotto, as you're suggesting

[fdotorres]

If his fight night weight for his 130 and 135 was the low 140s, he didn't have to go up an ounce. Before that fight, Floyd was under 150 in all of his bouts. That would amount to less than a 10 pound difference between the two, with Marquez at the same weight in which he looked good in. I hardly see that as a huge mismatch. Baldomir weighed 163 vs. Floyd, and Oscar was at 167. Floyd was 149 vs. Baldy and 148 vs. Oscar, a 14 and 19-pound difference, respectively.

well i don't know about you, but i do see as a mismatch a fight between a guy that's 141 re hydrated (and has never fought above 135 pounds) go against a guy that failed to make the 144 limit because he's too big to make it; the same that a day later declined to weigh himself again on fight night for some mysterious reason

and yeah, DLH weighted 167 on fight night, but he and marquez were the old dudes in their respective fights against floyd. DLH held all the advantages against floyd except age, but floyd held all the advantages against marquez, including age