Floyd's Too Good For Any WW

[tito yuca]

don't worry, here you go:

Cotto Wants Mayweather To “Stop Making Excuses”
By Eric Thomas: In the latest boxing news, undefeated WBA welterweight champion Miguel Cotto (31-0, 25 KOs) has called out WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr (39-0, 25 KOs), saying to “stop making excuses” for not fighting him. As of now, Mayweather, 30, has a scheduled rematch with Oscar De La Hoya to take place on September 20th in Las Vegas. Depending on the outcome of the fight, it’s difficult to say when/if Mayweather will be interested in a bout with the unbeaten 27 year-old Cotto.

more on that same interview:

All he wanted was a money fight. He was set to fight Oscar after Margarito (after Floyd retired), so he was just upset that Floyd and Oscar ignored him because were going to make more money fighting each other than against him.

Also, knowing Cotto and Arum, Arum probably told him to say that just to get attention. Cotto is a robot with no opinions on anything, and Arum likes to stir up controversy to get attention.

[shade darkar]

Judging from his size at the JMM fight plus his speed, I say he's too good for any welterweight. Paul Williams MIGHT could beat him but I think the majority thinks PWill is not interested in 147 anymore. Zab was beating Cotto for awhile, Pac would have the same disadvantages that JMM had (except Pac would be dangerous in the early rounds.) Floyd would take over after 5.

Mosley is a shadow of what he once was. Size wise and skill wise he's the most competitive fight out there, but his reflexes can't match Floyd's. Clottey would be a tough test (I thought Clottey beat Cotto), but Cotto knocked Clottey on his ass with a jab. Clottey had no answer to Zab until Zab burned himself out, and got cut. It will be a cold day in hell before Floyd gets tired.

Floyd beats anybody at 147.

he may well beat everybody at 147 but he hasnt beaten any of todays top ten ranked welterweights.

[fdotorres]

I knew you'd say something like that, and what you are missing is that you are comparing weight class with fight night weight. To assess how much he truly went up in weight, look at what he weighed for his 130 and 130 fights, and then look at his 148 vs. Floyd.

going up to 140's by re hydrating isn't the same as going up by building muscles

marquez was 142 pound on the scales. he looked bulky, like a mini tank. compare his body against pac on fight night (low 140's) with his body on the weigh in against floyd (low 140's)

140 pounds on fight night against pac:


140 marquez on weigh in against floyd:

[120]

Floyd is a very talented boxer, outstanding defense and great speed. but talent alone doesn't win fights. There's been PLENTY of fights where the better boxer has lost. Floyd fans need to understand that it means nothing to having the talent and saying Floyd would this floyd would that. He needs to actually do it for it to be taken into account.

[tito yuca]

That's Marquez' fault. Floyd went up a weight class to fight Oscar, but his weight stayed the same. If Marquez felt more comfortable at the low 140s, he should've stayed there, I said that all along. All he'd have to do was not dehydrate himself the day before the fight. This works because you don't put on weight that would slow you down, plus you get the added energy that comes with not having to drain yourself.

[fdotorres]

All he wanted was a money fight. He was set to fight Oscar after Margarito (after Floyd retired), so he was just upset that Floyd and Oscar ignored him because were going to make more money fighting each other than against him.

Also, knowing Cotto and Arum, Arum probably told him to say that just to get attention. Cotto is a robot with no opinions on anything, and Arum likes to stir up controversy to get attention.

we were discussing whether he challenged floyd or not, and that quote answer that question. regardless of the reasons behind it, cotto called out mayweather

but lets go back to 140 if you think that my quote is arum's opinion:

-"We’re rivals,” Cotto said. “Mayweather is a star of the sport and we’re in the same company. Mayweather was a great champion at 130 and 135. We don’t know about 140. When the company says the time is right to make the fight, I’ll fight him. I think it's a good fight. I know Mayweather's a great fighter. But I know I can beat him."

[tito yuca]

Floyd is a very talented boxer, outstanding defense and great speed. but talent alone doesn't win fights. There's been PLENTY of fights where the better boxer has lost. Floyd fans need to understand that it means nothing to having the talent and saying Floyd would this floyd would that. He needs to actually do it for it to be taken into account.

Well, Floyd is 40-0, so according to your "logic" that proves that talent alone DOES win fights.

He might not have fought Shane, Cotto, or whoever the haters choose to support as the "designated fighter to beat Floyd this year", but you don't get to be 40-0 by not fighting anyone.

[120]

Well, Floyd is 40-0, so according to your "logic" that proves that talent alone DOES win fights.

He might not have fought Shane, Cotto, or whoever the haters choose to support as the "designated fighter to beat Floyd this year", but you don't get to be 40-0 by not fighting anyone.

That's not my logic at all, let him fight some of them or whatever good his talent is don't mean ****. this is all im gonna reply back to ya since ur arguments are always based on going against whatever people tell ya. so it is pointless to even say this

[fdotorres]

That's Marquez' fault. Floyd went up a weight class to fight Oscar, but his weight stayed the same. If Marquez felt more comfortable at the low 140s, he should've stayed there, I said that all along. All he'd have to do was not dehydrate himself the day before the fight. This works because you don't put on weight that would slow you down, plus you get the added energy that comes with not having to drain yourself.

i'm not blaming floyd. it's obvious that it's marquez responsibility, but it's also obvious that his natural weight class was 130, as he pointed out after the diaz fight

he built up muscle to try a jump to the 140's naturally, and he failed miserably. however, that was his best shot at beating a much, much bigger floyd

he had to go up at least 10 pounds (140 was the min. weight) north of his current natural weight class to meet with floyd. floyd had to go 1 pound (148) over his current natural weight class when he fought DLH

[Iceta]

Floyd and his fans are just like what rappers refer to as studio gangsters. They talk about Floyd accomplishing ****, but it never happens. What happened to the quote, "You give me any fighter from 154 down and I'll beat em?" Where are these fighters on his resume? Where's Vernon Forrest, Paul Williams, Antonio Margarito, Shane Mosley, and Miguel Cotto (when he was undefeated)? I think Cotto isn't the same fighter as before though.