Marvin Hagler vs GGG who wins both in their prime

[JakeTheBoxer]

GGG without a doubt lost to Derevchenko, but was gifted the decision. He also arguably lost to Jacobs. neither of those guys are hall of famers.

You cry too much, just like the guy in your signature. GGG won both fights.

[djtmal]

Hagler

[Dr. Z]

Golovkin lost to Canelo. He never beat him. Jacobs was nearly as old as Golovkin and Golovkin barely beat him. So age was not a factor. Nice try but you can't rewrite history.


Name one fighter going to the hall of fame that Golovkin has beaten. I'll wait.

What are you talking about? Jacobs was 30, much younger than Golovkin.

I won't bother telling you tank GGG was robed vs Canelo, but the forum may value this:



A few sample score cards from the media is you're interested.

Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin
Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw
Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw
Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin
Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin
Sports Illustrated: 114-114 draw
Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin
Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw
*******: 114-114 draw
Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin
Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw
The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin
Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin
The Associated Press: 114-114 draw
Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw
Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin
Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin
George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw
Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin
Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw
Sherdog . com: 116-112 Golovkin
Jai Bednall (news . com . au): 115-113 Golovkin
Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw
Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin
Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin
Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin
Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin
Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin
World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin


Media cards,

Harold Lederman (HBO Sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Brian Campbell (CBS sports): 116-112 Golovkin

Dan Rafael (ESPN): 114-114 draw

Salvador Rodríguez (ESPN Mexico): 114-114 draw

Gareth A Davies (The Telegraph): 116-112 Golovkin

Josh Peter (USA Today): 115-113 Golovkin

Dylan Hernandez (LA Times): 115-113 Golovkin

Lance Pugmire (La Times): 114-114 draw

Box Scene: 114-114 draw

Chris Mannix (Yahoo! Sports): 115-113 Golovkin

Kevin Iole (Yahoo! Sports): 114-114 draw

The Guardian: 116-112 Golovkin

Joe DePaolo (Washington Post): 115-113 Golovkin

Mike Coppinger (Ring Magazine): 114-114 draw

Sherdog: 116-112 Golovkin

Jai Bednall (news.com.au): 115-113 Golovkin

Brian Mazique (Forbes): 114-114 draw

Adam Abramowitz (Ring Magazine and SN Boxing): 115-113 Golovkin


Tom Craze (Bad Left Hook): 116-112 Golovkin

Fraser Coffeen (Bloody Elbow): 115-113 Golovkin

The Associated Press: 114-114 draw

Bill Simmons (HBO and The Ringer): 114-114 draw

Steven Muehlhausen (Sporting News): 116-112 Golovkin

Michael Montero (MonteroOnBoxing): 115-113 Golovkin

Matt Christie (Boxing News): 115-114 Golovkin

George Willis (New York Post): 114-114 draw

Below The Belt Podcast: 115-113 Golovkin

World Boxing News: 115-113 Golovkin

Jeff Powell (Daily Mail): 116-113 Golovkin

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I scored GGG-Derevyan 8-4 for Derevyan. He utterly dominated power punch department.

[Hustle]

Hagler by late stoppage.

GGG best 3 opponents all went the distance. Canelo, jacobs, dereavychencko. So the power is normal when he's being pushed back.

Hagler is a different animal than all of them.

[Hustle]

I scored GGG-Derevyan 8-4 for Derevyan. He utterly dominated power punch department.

I had it 7-5 dereavychencko

[Silence]

I had it 7-5 dereavychencko

Acceptable. Loss is loss.

[hugh grant]

I think the former lightweight did a bit too well with hagler. I think GGG wins Over 12 rounds. Hagler wins over 15 rounds

[djtmal]

I think the former lightweight did a bit too well with hagler. I think GGG wins Over 12 rounds. Hagler wins over 15 rounds

Duran?

[DeeMoney]

Two guys who most people miss out on their primes. G's prime was 2010-15, before most of the fights people here are mentioning. Heck, by the time he fought Canelo & Derevy he was late 30s, Hagler was retired by his late 30s. So to judge GGG by those late career fights is as asinine as judging Ali by the Holmes fight.

Hagler to a similar extent gets his prime misread by many; people see the War with Hearns and don't realize that was his third to last fight, and not really indicative of what he was in his prime. Prime Hagler was a virtuoso and maybe the most well rounded fighter ever.

I like both these guys, and I think G catches a lot of undue flak for those who judge him on his late career fights or his failure to secure big names early on. That being written, he's just not on Hagler's level. Hagler is Mt. Rushmore of middleweights, G is a worthy HOFer, but about two steps down from Hagler. Stylistically, G doesn't make up the talent difference; prime Hagler sticks and moves too well for him, and even when he cuts him off (which prime G did very well) its not like he's gonna KO Hagler.

That being written, G has a world class chin as well, and Hagler doesn't need all that punishment to chase the KO. So Hagler wins this fight more often than not in a 8-4 or 7-5 range. No insult to either men, both greats.