Marvin Hagler vs GGG who wins both in their prime

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  • bballchump11
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    #61
    Originally posted by Silence

    Jacobs and Derevyan are much better than the guys Marvin lost to. You moron.

    Also, Jacobs will be in HoF. Pretty sure about it.
    What has Jacobs done to get into the HOF?

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    • Silence
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      #62
      Originally posted by bballchump11

      What has Jacobs done to get into the HOF?
      Nothing. Like another 48382 black fighters.

      HoF's standard is pretty low nowadays.

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        #63
        Originally posted by bballchump11

        What has Jacobs done to get into the HOF?


        GGG knocked down and BEAT Jacobs.


        Hagler LOST you ****

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          #64
          Originally posted by HeadShots

          Golovkin was 36.

          Hagler was busy losing to a welter weight at 32 lmfao then retired immediately after he got beat
          Wasn't like he was a used up 36. His biggest actual win and fight was against a welterweight until Canelo. Hagler lost a close fight to one of the most gifted fighters of all time. No one made Hagler tuck his nuts and turn into an amateur touch boxer deep into his pro career.

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            #65
            Originally posted by Murder Scene

            Wasn't like he was a used up 36. His biggest actual win and fight was against a welterweight until Canelo. Hagler lost a close fight to one of the most gifted fighters of all time. No one made Hagler tuck his nuts and turn into an amateur touch boxer deep into his pro career.

            LMFAO

            Hagler's biggest fights are against welters. Duran. Hearns and Leonard. He lost to the last one at 32.

            this is on top of the fact Hagler lost to absolute bums in his prime. GGG by KO

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              #66
              Originally posted by Dr. Z

              It would be a great fight. Hagler is bit gun shy and did not like it to the body. Mentally I give GGG the edge. And this is important. Hagler fought too conservative with a much smaller Duran, allowed Sugar Ray to outsmart him and failed to get busy early in the fight, and fought Vito Antuofermo to a draw. All of these matches happed in Hagler's prime at age 32 or under.

              Power wise I would also give GGG the edge. Speed and reach wise, I would give Hagler the sight edge. Height and weight wise, I'd give GGG the slight edge.

              How has the style advantage? GGG ate up former weight fighters in his prime. Hagler didn't always do this. I see a pattern of Hagler struggling with short, lower weight fighters. Check for yourself, it's there.

              So who wins? I would predict GGG via spilt decision. The above reasons illustrate why.

              It is a great fantasy fight.
              First of all Duran was a P4P great winning belts in 4 different weight divisions.The only boxer to stop Duran was the Hit man by 2nd round KO,Hearns who P4P is one of the hardest punchers of all time.The first Antuofermo was a robbery even the ref told Hagler that once they announce him as the winner he wanted Hagler to stand over here when he raised his arms.He stopped the same Antuofermo in rematch.Hagler took big body shots in his second last fight of his career against John the beast Magabi 260026ko & was pissing blood after the fight didn't stop him from stopping Magabi in the 11 th round.Hagler was 31 in that fight & had 66 fights under his belt.The Leonard fight I thought Hagler won 115-113.Hagler was the Champion & you do not take a champions belt dancing around like a ballerina with pitty padder punches.Hagler landed more punches in the fight,landed the harder punches & was the one coming forward all night.Leonard vs Hagler is the most evenly divided fight on who people think won.Hearns is the only one that i have ever seen hurt Hagler it didn't stop Hagler from stopping him though in the 3rd round in what people call the greatest MW fight of all time.I see GGG like Hearns coming in to land his big punches & getting countered big time by Hagler.You say GGG has the height advantage what height advantage GGG is 5'10 & Hagler is 5'9 & a half.Half inch isn't even something that would be noticed.Hagler was great at going from south paw to orthadox which would confuse his opponents & he did so naturally.He had power in both hands & a chin of Iron.In Haglers day championship fights were 15 rounds & they also fought with smaller gloves.I have Hagler the 2nd greatest MW of all time only behind Robinson.Just because GGG looks good on paper doesn't mean he would have beat a P4P great like Hagler.The only 2 big named boxers i have ever seen GGG fight was Jacobs (which ended in a close decision for GGG) & a 154 pound Jr.Middle weight named Canelo Alvarez who had to come up 6 pounds to fight GGG & I believe their first fight ended in a draw while the second fight Alvarez wins decision.You talk about Duran (a P4P great) moving up to fight Hagler well there you be.Hagler in his prime meaning in his mid 20s against Alvarez in his 20s Hagler wins.BY the way Duran coming up in weight did not beat Hagler where as Alvarez did beat GGG. I could be wrong in GGG vs Alvarez 1 I think Alvarez might have won a split decision.GGG was a good MW but didn't fight the competition that Hagler fought.Hagler was great at figuring out his opponents.

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                #67
                Originally posted by HeadShots


                LMFAO

                Hagler's biggest fights are against welters. Duran. Hearns and Leonard. He lost to the last one at 32.

                this is on top of the fact Hagler lost to absolute bums in his prime. GGG by KO
                Golovkin lost to a welterweight. Twice

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by joseph5620

                  golovkin lost to canelo. He never beat him. Jacobs was nearly as old as golovkin and golovkin barely beat him. So age was not a factor. Nice try but you can't rewrite history.


                  Name one fighter going to the hall of fame that golovkin has beaten. I'll wait.
                  jacobs was 30. Ggg was 35. 5 years is huge in boxing. Especially when you turn 35. And it was a ud. Barely won would be a sd.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by buddyr

                    GGG without a doubt lost to Derevchenko, but was gifted the decision. He also arguably lost to Jacobs. neither of those guys are hall of famers.
                    Naw that was a 8-4 7-5 win for ggg against sergey and jacobs he won by ud. Saying he arguably lost when he won a ud make you look like a moron. There was no controversy in any of those wins. He was also way way past his prime at 36 years old and 37 when he fought sergey. If you're going to use ggg at 37 in a competitive fight you might as well cherry pick anyone. at the end of their career to prove a point.
                    Last edited by satiev1; 07-23-2023, 08:56 PM.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by joseph5620

                      Golovkin lost to a welterweight. Twice
                      after 36. How old was Marvin?

                      How old was Marvin when he lost to those bums?
                      Last edited by HeadShots; 07-23-2023, 08:54 PM.

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