Comments Thread For: Anthony Joshua: I Need to Get My Fighting Spirit Back, Push Myself Again; It's Going to Be Tough

[Sweden2716]

Joshua is washed up. Cannot take a punch. Fights like a robot, not smooth at all, all rigid, to much muscle. Wilder will KO him in one or two rounds. If someone starts throwing combinations at him he cannot defend himself look at the Ruiz fight.

[JakeTheBoxer]

I know Fury is on your mind 24/7 but this thread doesn’t concern him.

You don`t have to be his advocate, he doesn`t mind what you think either.

Point is, Fury is more in denial than Joshua. Yeah, sure beating Chisora proves he is N.1.

[Apollo7]

AJ has always had his own way of thinking and a weird way with words so it's often hard (for me) to really understand what he's trying to say. He seems to always be looking for ways to improve though. His methods have taken him far to date. It'll be interesting to see how the rest of his career pans out.

[deathofaclown]

It's not exactly convincing when a fighter has to try to convince themselves they need to find that fighting spirit..

This is the same guy that spat out his gum shield and let the ref wave a fight of.He also never truly left it all in the ring v Usyk when he was getting clearly outboxed by Usyk.

He's just not got that extra grit when the fights get tough. If he did have it, he's lost it and you don't recover that in your mid 30s.

We've seen the likes of Wilder and Fury willing to leave absolutely everything in the ring when it gets tough. We haven't seen that from AJ for years and even he's basically admitting here.

Even Dillian Whyte, he may lose fights by getting knocked out, but I don't believe he would ever mentally check out of a fight. If somehow Whyte could drag this version of AJ into a war, I know Whyte would be willing to dig deeper.

[Sharpshootah]

I do like Aj. the Wlad fight was aces - but he just really needs to shut up every once and awhile. He's super easy to hate, dont understand how he has these idiot managers.

[CubanGuyNYC]

Takes a special kind of person to fight for a living. We don’t think about it often because we’re used to watching these guys do it again and again. But you’ve gotta be born for it, otherwise the discipline to get in the ring repeatedly can’t be maintained. Joshua is done mentally, which really means he’s finished. You can’t be a prize fighter, much less a champion, if your head and your heart aren’t 100% in the game.

[Zelda]

Why are you making things up?

You are aware that Wladimir Kiltschko never retired after being beaten by Fury 'Kiltschko initiated the rematch, and endured three back to back training camps before fighting Joshua. The reason why Kiltschko endured three back to back training camps, was because Fury kept on pulling out of their rematch'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was a Champion for close to a decade, and was unfortunately denied the opportunity to win his titles back in a rematch vs Fury 'Kiltschko never retired, was never inactive like Fury's hardcore fans and Joshua critics try and make out'.

Kiltschko by his own estimations was in better condition, more optimally prepared for Joshua than Tyson Fury 'And the time frame between both of those fights was not 2 years, it was 17 months just encase you AGAIN make more historic lies up'.

There is no way that Joshua should of been favorite vs Kiltschko in his 19th professional fight 'But he was on home turf in-front of 90'000 fans at Wembley Stadium, that is mega pressure'.

Wladimir Kiltschko statistically is one of the greatest Heavyweight Champions of all-times, Kiltschko had venom for the Joshua fight 'Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Joshua, compared to 245 pounds vs Fury. Fury's win his in terms of historical magnitude maybe is the better win, but in my opinion Anthony Joshua beat a better version of Kiltschko than Fury'.

Note: Kiltschko was no yesteryear fighter, Fury did not beat up or knock out Kiltschko 'It was Anthony Joshua who scored the more conclusive win over Kiltschko, in the greatest Heavyweight title fight of the past 25 years'.

We are witnessing the conclusion to era, Fury currently right now just about is holding track position 'But his position is under attack, how he reacts now will determine is greatest as Champion. The competition is still between Fury, Usyk, Joshua and still Wilder 'Which one of these fighters will be the last man standing'.

Lennox Lewis was the last man standing from the 90's era, Muhammad Ali effectively was the last man standing from the 70's, we have witness these events similar before in boxing history etc.

What exactly did I "make up" in those comments?

Are you denying that a 40+ year-old Klitschko fought AJ? or that he was coming off a loss? or that he hadn't fought for almost 1.5 years? or that AJ was his last fight?

What part of that is "made up"? I never said Klitschko was retired...I said he was coming off semi-retirement and I say that because of his age, inactivity prior to this fight, and this being his last fight. training camps are not the same as fights. Every fighter, no matter how great or legendary they are, has a shelf life. You cannot fight biology and aging or ignore its effects in a physical sport like boxing.

Why would someone not think that a young boxer can beat an aging boxer? Joshua was already an Olympic gold medalist, not some random journeyman. There are levels to that because noobs do not win gold medals, do they? Why would anyone in their right mind underestimate him?

[hugh grant]

You could get fighting spirit back if losing wasnt a concern. But now Josh is worried about a counter attack and one mistake can be costly. Its not like hes gun shy, but he is aware one punch can change it all and losing isnt an option and isn't good. It must be working as he hasnt been down since being koed.

[PRINCEKOOL]

What exactly did I "make up" in those comments?

Are you denying that a 40+ year-old Klitschko fought AJ? or that he was coming off a loss? or that he hadn't fought for almost 1.5 years? or that AJ was his last fight?

What part of that is "made up"? I never said Klitschko was retired...I said he was coming off semi-retirement and I say that because of his age, inactivity prior to this fight, and this being his last fight. training camps are not the same as fights. Every fighter, no matter how great or legendary they are, has a shelf life. You cannot fight biology and aging or ignore its effects in a physical sport like boxing.

Why would someone not think that a young boxer can beat an aging boxer? Joshua was already an Olympic gold medalist, not some random journeyman. There are levels to that because noobs do not win gold medals, do they? Why would anyone in their right mind underestimate him?

You stated that Wladimir Kiltschko was semi-retired, when he fought Anthony Joshua 'That is what you made up mate, you know that'.

I am not denying anything, I have been telling you how it was.

I am sure Wladimir Kiltschko knows himself and his conditioning more than you, by his own estimations he was in better condition more optimally prepared for Joshua 'They are his words, I have posted the video many times before on this forum of Kiltschko stating this'.

Kiltschko was not coming off a semi-retirement, he had to endure 3 back to back training camps 'And the reason why he had to endure 3 back to back training camps, was because Fury kept on pulling out of their rematch unfortunately'.

Enduring three back to back training camps is not being inactive, not like how you are trying to make out 'There are journey men who don't train, turn up for fights out of condition and still fight. Stop it with the nonsense mate, most of a real boxers work gets done in the gym 'That is why you hear boxers emphasizing that they need more time to work with a new trainer'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was a extremely experienced fighter, going 17 months without fighting is not really going to effect him negatively 'And it is not scientifically impossibly for a fighter to improve their conditioning over a 17 month period during that stage of Kiltschko's career'.

Don't just say and cliche and think that it disproves what I am saying 'Because it does not mate'.

Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Joshua, that statistic blows out of the water 'This nonsensical notion that Kiltschko rapidly deteriorated, he was in better condition for Joshua. Anyone who is honest to themselves knows this'.

Note: Anthony Joshua was a inexperienced fighter when he fought Kiltschko, it was only his 19th professional fight 'Yes Joshua won the Olympic Gold medal, but surely you know that Joshua was a inexperienced amateur fighter 'Joshua achieved unprecedented feats as a amateur, with only 43 fights'.

Kilschko had over 130 amateur fights, and 68 professional fights at the time he fought Joshua 'For me Joshua should not of been the favorite vs Kiltschko. I don't think Joshua was a big favorite anyway, among real boxing purist' i.e Kiltschko actually had 134 Amateur fights 3 times more fights than Joshua.

Joshua was under big pressure in his 19th professional fight, on home turf in-front of 90'000 fans against a all-time great fighter 'Fury has never competed in that type of environment. Fury was a underdog vs Kiltschko which is easier, it is the easier position to compete under 'The only pressure a fighter experiences in that environment is the pressure they put on themselves' etc.

[Zelda]

You stated that Wladimir Kiltschko was semi-retired, when he fought Anthony Joshua 'That is what you made up mate, you know that'.

I am not denying anything, I have been telling you how it was.

I am sure Wladimir Kiltschko knows himself and his conditioning more than you, by his own estimations he was in better condition more optimally prepared for Joshua 'They are his words, I have posted the video many times before on this forum of Kiltschko stating this'.

Kiltschko was not coming off a semi-retirement, he had to endure 3 back to back training camps 'And the reason why he had to endure 3 back to back training camps, was because Fury kept on pulling out of their rematch unfortunately'.

Enduring three back to back training camps is not being inactive, not like how you are trying to make out 'There are journey men who don't train, turn up for fights out of condition and still fight. Stop it with the nonsense mate, most of a real boxers work gets done in the gym 'That is why you hear boxers emphasizing that they need more time to work with a new trainer'.

Wladimir Kiltschko was a extremely experienced fighter, going 17 months without fighting is not really going to effect him negatively 'And it is not scientifically impossibly for a fighter to improve their conditioning over a 17 month period during that stage of Kiltschko's career'.

Don't just say and cliche and think that it disproves what I am saying 'Because it does not mate'.

Kiltschko was 240 pounds vs Joshua, that statistic blows out of the water 'This nonsensical notion that Kiltschko rapidly deteriorated, he was in better condition for Joshua. Anyone who is honest to themselves knows this'.

Note: Anthony Joshua was a inexperienced fighter when he fought Kiltschko, it was only his 19th professional fight 'Yes Joshua won the Olympic Gold medal, but surely you know that Joshua was a inexperienced amateur fighter 'Joshua achieved unprecedented feats as a amateur, with only 43 fights'.

Kilschko had over 130 amateur fights, and 68 professional fights at the time he fought Joshua 'For me Joshua should not of been the favorite vs Kiltschko. I don't think Joshua was a big favorite anyway, among real boxing purist' i.e Kiltschko actually had 134 Amateur fights 3 times more fights than Joshua.

Joshua was under big pressure in his 19th professional fight, on home turf in-front of 90'000 fans against a all-time great fighter 'Fury has never competed in that type of environment. Fury was a underdog vs Kiltschko which is easier, it is the easier position to compete under 'The only pressure a fighter experiences in that environment is the pressure they put on themselves' etc.

I don't know what you're ****ing about...I mentioned exactly what I said and why I said that.


You haven't refuted a single thing because you cannot. You know those are facts that I stated. You keep repeating how experienced Klitschko is...Have you seen me question his experience? But we're all humans and humans do age. After a certain time, more mileage on the body is a bad thing rather than a good thing, particularly in combat sports. No amount of experience will make your 40+ year old body transform into a 22-23 yr old.

If he was in such good physical condition and in his prime which you say, why was AJ his last fight?

Another question...how many HW champions do you know at the age he fought AJ, other than Foreman? Vitali but he too fought his last fight at 41 and against Charr. I am sure all other HW too would be very experienced by age 41.

Beating a 41-year-old is not some upset. Even greats like Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Lewis, Holifield, etc. weren't champs at that age. Klitschko was a good boxer and gave a good fight. He had a great career but AJ wasn't fighting a Klitschko at the top of his career. He fought him at the END of his career, after he had a loss (he was schooled by Fury), 1.5 years of no fights, and 41 yrs of age. So, why would someone think AJ did not have a chance of beating him?