Devin Haney Blames Floyd Mayweather For “Messed Up” State Of The Sport

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  • Roadblock
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    #341
    Originally posted by clmags12

    Who was drained?

    Oscar dictated the fight stipulations to Manny not the other way around.

    Cotto was at 45 bc that was Manny real WW fight against someone who is naturally larger. The first 5 rounds of Pac/Cotto was a great evenly matched fight.

    Oscar fight was more of a showcase that backfired on DLH.

    Marg was 17 lbs larger than Manny fight night. Wonderful display of someone in a lower weight class beating on some one who kind of deserved it, LOL!
    Are you for real who was drained.

    Again you make out oh Oscar set the condition so he was not drained, get away with that sht, IV fluids and only gained 2lb in 30hrs and Manny outweighed him on the night, Oscar had not been that weight for close to 10yrs as a Jr WW, he looked like rubbish fighting a LW in Forbes the fight before Manny he was 20lbs heaver fighting Floyd, he has made numerous statements about how drained he was fighting Manny. Do you understand hindsight is 20/20 vision.

    Why do fans ignore provable facts, fckg why/.

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      #342
      Originally posted by Roadblock

      Are you for real who was drained.

      Again you make out oh Oscar set the condition so he was not drained, get away with that sht, IV fluids and only gained 2lb in 30hrs and Manny outweighed him on the night, Oscar had not been that weight for close to 10yrs as a Jr WW, he looked like rubbish fighting a LW in Forbes the fight before Manny he was 20lbs heaver fighting Floyd, he has made numerous statements about how drained he was fighting Manny. Do you understand hindsight is 20/20 vision.

      Why do fans ignore provable facts, fckg why/.
      Regardless of what you say. Manny was the underdog. DLH was favored to win bc of size advantage. The Phillipine govt tried banning him to fight DLH.

      The only one to blame is Oscar himself for saying he could make it. It's Floyd and his fans that are kicking themselves for Floyd retiring and avoiding that rematch with Oscar. He was ripe for the picking, but Manny took advantage. If you look it up it was supposed to be cotto.

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        #343
        Originally posted by clmags12

        Regardless of what you say. Manny was the underdog. DLH was favored to win bc of size advantage. The Phillipine govt tried banning him to fight DLH.

        The only one to blame is Oscar himself for saying he could make it. It's Floyd and his fans that are kicking themselves for Floyd retiring and avoiding that rematch with Oscar. He was ripe for the picking, but Manny took advantage. If you look it up it was supposed to be cotto.
        What do you mean regardless of what I say, Im stating proven facts the numbers don't lie , Oscar was the worst case of a drained fighter I have seen in over 50yrs with the sport, he was worse that LaLonde worse than Chad Dawson, why cant you even acknowledge Oscar was drained with so much evidence proving it.

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          #344
          I already said Oscar looked like chit. Again his own fault.

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            #345
            Originally posted by clmags12
            I already said Oscar looked like chit. Again his own fault.
            Thats the whole point Ive never blamed Manny but Oscar being the blame doesn't take away the fact he was badly drained, and it has a lot to do with the merit of the win, fans like to drop names and don't care why a win happened, I honest believe the Oscar that fought Floyd close to 20lbs heavier coming off a KO win over a MW would have beaten Manny easy, and if you go into the history of the negotiation with Manny and Oscar you will find Manny wanted 144 and was in no way going above 147, with Floyd there is no way on earth Oscar was going to accept 147 he demanded 154 and Floyd said ok.

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              #346
              Originally posted by Roadblock

              Thats the whole point Ive never blamed Manny but Oscar being the blame doesn't take away the fact he was badly drained, and it has a lot to do with the merit of the win, fans like to drop names and don't care why a win happened, I honest believe the Oscar that fought Floyd close to 20lbs heavier coming off a KO win over a MW would have beaten Manny easy, and if you go into the history of the negotiation with Manny and Oscar you will find Manny wanted 144 and was in no way going above 147, with Floyd there is no way on earth Oscar was going to accept 147 he demanded 154 and Floyd said ok.
              Me personally RB, I don't see Mannys win over DLH as one of mannys great wins. Even Roach was saying Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore. Then when Oscar came out on fight night against Manny, I felt bad for Oscar. You just knew he was done.

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                #347
                Originally posted by clmags12

                Me personally RB, I don't see Mannys win over DLH as one of mannys great wins. Even Roach was saying Oscar couldn't pull the trigger anymore. Then when Oscar came out on fight night against Manny, I felt bad for Oscar. You just knew he was done.
                Thats true, I don't hate on Manny at all, I can be critical but only when I have facts to back it up I just get up the fanboys that ignore the facts, youre not one of those dummies and its good to see honest fans occasionally youre one of the rare ones.

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                  #348
                  Originally posted by clmags12

                  Regardless of what you say. Manny was the underdog. DLH was favored to win bc of size advantage. The Phillipine govt tried banning him to fight DLH.

                  The only one to blame is Oscar himself for saying he could make it. It's Floyd and his fans that are kicking themselves for Floyd retiring and avoiding that rematch with Oscar. He was ripe for the picking, but Manny took advantage. If you look it up it was supposed to be cotto.
                  DLH was only a 2-1 fave. Hardly a massive winner especially when Ortiz was kicking his arse in sparring

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                    #349
                    Originally posted by User Name HERE

                    So you don't know either, fair enough. Look, I'm no Mayweather fan, when I thought of someone he didn't fight the only name I could
                    come up with was Antonio (Plaster of Paris) Margarito.
                    No one was hollering for a Margarito-Mayweather fight anyway, so hardly worth mentioning.

                    Seems none the four kings would even mentioned Julian Jackson or Mike McCallum. Nice of Hagler to give Mugabi a shot tho.
                    Well those boxer i mention know more than me and their words has more weight than all of us here in NSB combined.

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                      #350
                      Originally posted by EmpiresBoxing

                      Well those boxer i mention know more than me and their words has more weight than all of us here in NSB combined.
                      How about these guys that say there is no way to beat Floyd, Tyson Leonard Hearns Mosley how much weight do they carry.

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