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Devin Haney Blames Floyd Mayweather For “Messed Up” State Of The Sport

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  • hugh grant
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    Originally posted by djtmal View Post

    He would beat Conor McGregor and yell TBE
    Yeh, he best Marciano record, 50-0. So best ever unbeaten guy maybe? But SRR 70-1 is better

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  • eco1
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    He is saying exactly what I told you many years ago, but at the same time this I d I o t doesn't understand he can keep his mouth shut after all the ****** things he has done in the past few months.

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  • djtmal
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    Originally posted by hugh grant View Post
    Floyd was the king of fighting people at their weakest and living off of the wins. Floyd will always be greater than Nelo, even if Nelo wins at heavyweight, as Floyd will always have that catch weight, green win over Nelo?
    He would beat Conor McGregor and yell TBE

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  • djtmal
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    Originally posted by takenotes View Post
    How did Floyd Cherry pick?

    Manny Pacquiao
    Marcos Maidana x2
    Canelo
    Cotto
    Ortiz
    Mosley
    Judah
    Castillo x2
    Corrales
    Gatti
    Baldomir
    DeLeHoya
    Hatton
    Marquez

    I mean, most of those names are PPV guys. Maybe earlier in his career and I guess maybe Gurerro and Berto you can call a pick but come on...
    Out of that list he did not cherrypick Canelo Castillo Corrales Oscar and Hatton

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  • The Big Dunn
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    Floyd’s success bother a lot of people for some reason. They seem to think there is only one way to become the sport’s cash cow.

    They were wrong.

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  • hugh grant
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    Floyd was the king of fighting people at their weakest and living off of the wins. Floyd will always be greater than Nelo, even if Nelo wins at heavyweight, as Floyd will always have that catch weight, green win over Nelo?

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  • takenotes
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    How did Floyd Cherry pick?

    Manny Pacquiao
    Marcos Maidana x2
    Canelo
    Cotto
    Ortiz
    Mosley
    Judah
    Castillo x2
    Corrales
    Gatti
    Baldomir
    DeLeHoya
    Hatton
    Marquez

    I mean, most of those names are PPV guys. Maybe earlier in his career and I guess maybe Gurerro and Berto you can call a pick but come on...

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  • ELPacman
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    Mayweather was smart. When he became more of a safety first fighter, he knew nobody would tune in and pay big bucks to watch him fight. So he had marketing tools. One was being undefeated. This played into marketing tool 2. Be the bad guy that everyone wanted to see lose and lose that undefeated record. Marketing tool 3, have an entertaining dance partner, because the opponent was going to A, help bring in the big bucks, and B, make the fight watchable. I'd say, he was great at using all his marketing tools in boxing though also brought in the question marks because, he had to be so careful on how to choose the right guy because everything was based around that undefeated record and he couldn't afford to lose it.

    Now what worked for him, will not work for every other fighter and why it's become such a damn mess. Haney comes off likeable and almost educated in his lowkey interviews. That's opposite of Floyd. Yet his style is boring as f**k, so you got 2 reasons there not to watch him. His best chance is having a good dance partner and that's why him facing Ryan was the highest of his career.

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  • djtmal
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    He is cherrypicking personified

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  • PRINCEKOOL
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    This is the worst excuse, that I have seen? The newer generation fighters claiming all of the time 'Floyd Mayweather Junior was a World Champion since his he was 21 years old, and he has a better resume that all current active boxers'.

    If every single top level boxer had the attitude, work ethic and competitiveness of Floyd Mayweather Junior 'In opinion the sport would be experiencing one of its best era's ever, definitively this modern game would be improved'.

    Floyd Mayweather Junior just so happened to stay undefeated, but? Mayweather's undefeated record was not manufactured 'You don't beat the calibre of fighters that he fought consistently throughout the years, with a manufacture and engineered resume'.

    Top fighters don't want to fight each other sometimes, within this era 'In my opinion, because they are less competitive than fighters from past generations. I have stated this before? Amateur boxing is the pinnacle of pure competition in the sport. Because at that level of the sport, boxers are competing to solely just be the best fighters they can be. Their motivations for competing are in my opinion, more intrinsic and less extrinsic. This is why I personally still regard? The amateur ranks in the sport as a vital foundation, and reference point of the innate work ethic and competitiveness of a fighter'.

    Note: And that innate work ethic and competitiveness, most of the time shows up in the professional ranks 'Whether those fighters win World titles or not. They always for the most part conduct themselves primarily as competitors, and then secondary as prize fighters. Anthony Joshua has continually throughout his career, repeated and stated that 'He is a competitor, and he wants to challenge himself by fighting top level fighters'. We have very rarely if ever, heard Tyson Fury utter similar statements throughout his professional career, and that is because in my opinion? Tyson Fury on a fundamental and innate level is not the level of competitor that Anthony Joshua has been throughout his career. Fury's latest retirement after stating that he would fight Joshua is evidence of this in my opinion'.

    Oleksandr Uysk was a Olympic Champion, Anthony Joshua was a Olympic Champion, and World Championship medalist. David Haye and Carl Froch were both British Boxings first World Amateur medalist for 27 years'. The World Amateur boxing championship was first held in 1974, both Haye and Froch were the first British World Amateur boxing medalist in 2001. David Haye won a Silver Medal, and Carl Froch in the same Championships won the Bronze Medal.

    Tyson Fury turned professional after being beaten by David Price 'That was Fury's highest achievement as a amateur fighter. 'And this is no disrespect? Because at the time David Price was a commonwealth bronze medallist, and one of the top Amateur Super Heavyweight fighters in the build up to the 2008 Olympics'.​

    To conclude: So, overall the reason why this era of boxing and the top level fighters sometimes 'Don't want to fight each other. It is because modern day fighters are nowhere near as competitive as fighters from past eras. Everyone within the boxing game is playing their part, YOU should not just blame promoters or whatever other cronies boxers chose to keep within their teams'.

    Sometimes fighters just have not got the minerals to the same level of Floyd Mayweather Junior 'And then we have fighters who were operating in a completely different stratosphere of competition'.

    Fighters such as Sugar Ray Leonard, Henry Armstrong, Muhammad Ali 'Sugar Ray Robinson had 201 fights in total. Henry Armstrong had 183 fights, once upon a time? Armstrong fought 27 times in one year.

    Muhammad Ali got his jaw broken by Ken Norton in their first fight 'And even after such a injury, the rematch was less than 6 months later'.​

    Where is that level of competitiveness now? It is not in the game, or the fighters 'But that is not a criticism, because fundamentally I still regard Amateur or professional boxers as extremely competitive athletes. Especially when you match them against athletes from other sports, boxers in that regard are demanded to have a elite level of competitiveness if they desire to be top level fighters'.

    But from the extremely high level where fighters use to be? People within the boxing community would have to admit, that overall that level of competitiveness has dropped considerably. And that is why at times, you may see or hear fighters speaking and promoting those narratives which Devin Haney is speaking of here etc.



    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 02-03-2025, 09:37 AM.

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