Let's Face Facts, Manny Pacquiao = The Most Overrated Fighter Of The 21st Century

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  • shogunn
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    #31
    Originally posted by Mr. President
    A very sluggish champion who brought Manny Pacquiao to the verge of death on 2 seperate occasions and arguably beat him twice.

    Let's be clear, Marquez is a beast of a fighter and is a top contender at WW. He's ranked #3 P4P deservingly and i'll guaruntee you he gives any other fighter at WW a run for their money. Don't be fooled by the clinic Floyd put on, he's just that good.
    haha, we've heard it all now. youre a joke, everyone knows it except yourself

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    • Bushidō
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      #32
      hes overrated by people in forums but not boxing experts

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      • Mr. President
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        #33
        Originally posted by The Bay Bomber
        hes overrated by people in forums but not boxing experts
        Yep, hence why his fanbase mainly consists of fans who are new to the sport of boxing and don't really understand it but gravitate to Manny because of his flashy style and the fact that he has the HBO hype machine behind him.

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        • Mr. President
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          #34
          Originally posted by shogunn
          haha, we've heard it all now. youre a joke, everyone knows it except yourself
          Marquez gave Pac the 2 hardest fights of his life where as Mayweather basicly toyed with him. If you deny that then you're delusional.

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          • rao007
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            #35
            Originally posted by Mr. President
            A very sluggish champion who brought Manny Pacquiao to the verge of death on 2 seperate occasions and arguably beat him twice.

            Let's be clear, Marquez is a beast of a fighter and is a top contender at WW. He's ranked #3 P4P deservingly and i'll guaruntee you he gives any other fighter at WW a run for their money. Don't be fooled by the clinic Floyd put on, he's just that good.
            ARE YOU FREAKIN' INSANE?!?!? Top contender? Maybe as a lightweight, yeah, but as a welterweight? I even say that about Pacquiao.

            Again, I say sluggish because the fight between Pacquiao and Marquez was at 130--very near Marquez natural weight. I'm not dissing Floyd's skills--it's probably more than Marquez and Pacquiao combined but don't make it sound like it's some amazing victory he beat Marquez.
            Last edited by rao007; 10-01-2009, 06:59 PM.

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            • bojangles1987
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              #36
              Originally posted by Mr. President
              It's no secret that Pac is an entertaining fighter to watch and he deserves credit for a couple of good wins that he has in his career. But realistically, this guy doesnt belong anywhere near the top of the P4P list and i think the reason he's so keen on retiring soon is because he knows he's been lucky in his past few fights (the decision going to him when Pee pee mouth Marquez clearly beat him and the fact that Oscar gave the fight to him on a silver platter by coming in extremely drained) and he wants to hang up the gloves while he's still at the top so he can pursue other opportunities and enjoy being looked at as a god in the Phillipennes.

              Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach and that old crook Bob Arum (aka Manny's decision makers) understand this, and that's why they wanna shield him from Mayweather at all costs so they can continue the illusion that he's on Floyd's level without ever having to prove it. Like i'v stated in the past, after the Cotto fight (if Pac wins and that's a big if) you're gonna hear Freddie "The Joke Coach" Roach make up some story about how Floyd was being difficult with the negotiations asking for too much money, and that's the reason why the fight fell through. A cheap excuse to rob the fans of the fight Boxing desperately needs that you can already see Freddie and Arum setting up in their more recent interviews.

              Bottom line, Manny "I have other people make my decisions for me" Pacquiao doesnt even break the top 5 in terms of skill and ring intelligence which is why Manny's decision makers will never let him fight Mayweather or Mosley. There are plenty of other fighters who deserve to be ranked higher then Manny in the P4P list, and the fact that you all bought into that no soul having crook Bob Arum's empty claims and the HBO hype machine to allow Manny to have that top spot is a slap in the face to boxing and all the fighters who are more deserving. I can't wait to watch Pacs fans world come crumbling down after Cotto exposes him.
              You have no credibility. You think Floyd Mayweather is greater than Muhammad Ali. And Pac had the ring intelligence to go 24 pretty much even rounds with the best Juan Manuel Marquez, and come out on top in one fight.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Chr0nic
                this coming from a floyd stan
                floyd has'nt fought anyone a threat to him in so long, picking on a lightweight and having done **** all in his weight class as of late and he still registers 1 million in his fights
                now who's more overrated? the man out in the middle of the war facing competition that have been favoured over him
                or the little ***** stickin his neck out everynow and then till he sees a child pass by so he can jump'em?
                Other than De La Hoya, who else has been favored over him in his last few fights?

                David Diaz(Underdog)
                De La Hoya(Favorite)
                Hatton(Underdog)
                Cotto(Underdog)

                To the TS, I disagree that Manny is overrated but i agree that he's not on Mayweather's level.

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                • Mr. President
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by bojangles1987
                  You have no credibility. You think Floyd Mayweather is greater than Muhammad Ali. And Pac had the ring intelligence to go 24 pretty much even rounds with the best Juan Manuel Marquez, and come out on top in one fight.
                  He came out on top in the 2nd fight according to the judges, but any real boxing fan will tell you Marquez won that fight where as Mayweather absolutely destroyed him to the point where you'd be hard pressed to find one single round to give him. In fact, in total i think Piss mouth landed 2 clean shots on Mayweather during the whole fight. Do the math.

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                  • PinoyZoi
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Mr. President
                    Bottom line, Manny "I have other people make my decisions for me" Pacquiao doesnt even break the top 5 in terms of skill and ring intelligence which is why Manny's decision makers will never let him fight Mayweather or Mosley.
                    WAIT A MINUTE....

                    Didnt Floyd say he is his own boss and make fights????? "I will let Al Haymon and Ellerbe my BOSS to negotiate"

                    *****

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                    • mikelovesfood
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Mr. President
                      Right, because coming back after a 2 year hiatus to fight the #2 ranked P4P fighter in the world is really playing it safe.

                      That whole weight issue is a cop out anyways and it shows how soft boxing fans are today. Here's some boxing trivia for you: Did Sugar Ray Robinson cry like a girl and make excuses about his weight after he moved from WW to MW and got beat by Jake Lamotta for the first time in his career, or like the champion he was did he rise past all that, come back stronger and go onto beat Lamotta 5 times?

                      1000 points for whoever guesses correctly.
                      Your logic is insane! You sir are oblivious to boxing if you truly believe Pac is overrated and just hype.

                      You, you are srsly going to defend Floyds' choice of opponents? ARE YOU ****ING SERIOUS? No stats in the world, top p4p or not will change the fact that Floyd made a ***** MOVE of picking JMM as his opponent to face coming back in the ring. People don't Floyd as much because when you're not taking risks ITS NOT ENTERTAINING!!! How can your logic big so ****ing off.

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