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  • #41
    Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
    Bernard's not a natural middleweight but he could make the weight for over 10 years...no problem
    How can you be a natural lhw, when come fight night you have rehydrated back up to 170? If boxing kept same day ins, Hopkin's would of stayed at either lhw or sm?
    Last edited by Adamantium; 10-01-2009, 09:33 AM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by street bully View Post
      Hopkins fought DLH at a catchweight of 156. If that was not fair, I do not know what is. It doesn't change the fact that the MW division has always had MWs being challenged by great former super WWs.
      Come fight night against DLH, Hopkins was back up to 170 again.
      Last edited by Adamantium; 10-01-2009, 09:38 AM.

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      • #43
        it doesn't matter what hopkins did or didn't do.

        the important thing is that floyd/mosley is a great WW fight and it should be happening next

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          it doesn't matter what hopkins did or didn't do.

          the important thing is that floyd/mosley is a great WW fight and it should be happening next
          Floyd should fight the winner of Cotto/Pac first, then fight Mosely.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by The_Executioner View Post
            1. All boxers are hypocrites
            2. 15X stronger? lol...he can make 160...he's a middleweight...if it was that hard making 160 he'd be weight drained or forced to move up
            3. Bernard has no control over who is at 160...he beats the men put in front of him...
            4. He fought Robert Allen in 2004 not the 90's...
            1. No not really. Not too many elite fighters step in the ring with grossly smaller men the way Hopkins did and what Floyd is now being chastised for.

            2. The fact is Hopkins is one of the few fighters who actually entered boxing at one division, then scale down TWO divisions. Srl, Srr, not even Hagler scaled down divisions, only up (except for hagler of course). I can't think of any other fighter who has done this. You watch his 90's fights and see how much stronger he is than his opposition, then come see me.

            3. True, but if you are dominating a weak division, whats the sense of staying and rotting there, especially if you know you belong at 168 or 175. At 168 he had plenty of name fighters he could have staked his claim against and received plenty of props for beating. Hopkins was rotting at 160 until that middleweight tournament came long. That was his saving grace.

            4. Fought Allen 3 times, with the first being in '98. Look at how he ran Allen over in the rematch and in subsequent fights with Simon Brown, Bo James, Antuan Echols, and get back at me.
            Last edited by djtmal; 10-01-2009, 09:52 AM.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by SilverSamurai View Post
              How can you be a natural lhw, when come fight night you have rehydrated back up to 170? If boxing kept same day ins, Hopkin's would of stayed at either lhw or sm?
              he would have had to choose a division higher than 160...at least 168...

              i give him credit...he would look like a crack patient making 160 and sometimes below that...long, lean cats with low bodyfat can get that off..., but after the weigh-in he's up to 170+, fighting a blown up welterweight who is sluggish @ 160....not a mystery that hopkins also refused to be weighed in after the official weigh-in on several occasions...just like floyd
              Last edited by djtmal; 10-01-2009, 09:56 AM.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by djtmal View Post
                3. True, but if you are dominating a weak division, whats the sense of staying and rotting there, especially if you know you belong at 168 or 175. At 168 he had plenty of name fighters he could have staked his claim against and received plenty of props for beating.
                All the best fights for Hopkins were at smw: Benn, Eubank, Toney, Jones etc. He had no reason to stay as a mw fighting the likes of Hakkar and Echols for 'peanuts'..
                Last edited by Adamantium; 10-01-2009, 09:58 AM.

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                • #48
                  Hopkins is absolutely right in this video

                  This is the biggest All African American fight that can be made today, and just like Mexicans support their Mexican fighters, Blacks need to support their Black fighters.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by SilverSamurai View Post
                    Floyd should fight the winner of Cotto/Pac first, then fight Mosely.
                    cotto/pac/arum will play hardball w/ floyd... it might not happen soon. he should fight mosley in the meantime.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by MASSMAN View Post
                      This is the biggest All African American fight that can be made today, and just like Mexicans support their Mexican fighters, Blacks need to support their Black fighters.
                      like i said, its the classic battle between ni99ahs (the mayweathers) and black people (the mosleyes). its gonna be a great fight.

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