Official: Once and for all; Did Vasyli Lomachenko get robbed vs Devin Haney?

[ColdBlooded]

Just for arguments sake I just rewatched Round 3 alone as that was a round I had marked down as either way.

How could you possibly argue that Lomacheko clearly won that round? What are you watching that makes that a clear round to you?

Do you not count body shots or jabs?

Haney has more than an argument for winning that round and I think almost anyone would agree with that, even Lomachenko's most avid of fans.

So that makes your position incorrect from the off. That's without the fact that 2, 7 and 8 weren't clear rounds either.

Haney did well early with a few body shots. But around halfway through the round, Loma landed the left hand. Then he landed a combination on Haney. Then he got him against the ropes and landed three clean power shots to the head. And then he landed some clean left hands afterwards. Their jab connects were similar. But if Haney lands 7 or 8 power shots and Loma lands 13 or 14 flush power shots, seems pretty clear who won the round. Haney may have had more individual moments. But he was landing one at a time while Lomachenko landed in combination. That limited how many punches Haney landed. So one combination of three clean shots erases much of Haney's work.

2 was definitely a clear Lomachenko round. The one sequence in the second half of the round where he had Haney in the corner and landed around 8 or 9 punches was enough to basically erase all the body shots Haney landed in the first half of the round. Add in the two other combinations later on and Loma outlanded Haney dramatically in that round. Thus clearly winning it.

Simple question: how many punches did you see Haney land in 2 and 3?

[dibzvincent143]

There seems to be some sort of "debate" whether the fight was a robbery or not. Please speak up by voting, boxing world.

What does the boxing world think? the biggest boxing website on the planet, who won and do you think Lomachenko got robbed or not?

I thought Loma pulled off a very close one. 115-113 either way is fair, but 114-114 is even better.

For me though Loma landed the crispier and shots, was more active and finished strong winning 2 out of the 3 championship rounds. Nowhere in any round did he appear hurt or buckled, which I can’t say the same for Haney.

If a boxing fight is merely judge by who pummeled who more then Loma wins this with ease. But by actual boxing rounds then it’s a draw or 115-113 either way.

Haney’s case was his constant work to body and output when Loma was doing nothing or taking a breather.. but man, he never really put a beating on Loma like he said he would.

[YGriffith]

The first 6 rounds, loma didn't do anything, and i remember i was on the loma got robbed boat.

Haney got most of the first 6 round and he barely did anything, but still did more than loma.

Idk what his strategy is but it aint working.

[ColdBlooded]

The first 6 rounds, loma didn't do anything, and i remember i was on the loma got robbed boat.

Haney got most of the first 6 round and he barely did anything, but still did more than loma.

Loma seemed to outthrow and outland Haney in 2 and 3, no?

[Dip_Slide]

Regardless of who you think won, we can all agree than none of them really set themselves apart from the other one, moving on this will have an asterisk on the record of whichever fighter got the decision and the only way to resolve this is by having a rematch. If I were Haney I wouldn't move on without a rematch, also rematches always favor the younger fighters. Only problem will be making the weight.

[paulf]

Unhinged….

[EmpiresBoxing]

Not even a competitive fight. Easy win for haney

[786]

Now that the smoke is clearing, it's no longer this clear cut robbery narrative some Loma fans were trying to push. A lot of people rewatched the fight and realised that they were listening to the commentary, the crowd noise and their own bias the first time round and got it wrong.

A very similar thing happened with the Teo-Loma fight, there were a lot of very vocal people calling it a robbery, as time passed they changed it to "could've gone either way or even a draw" and now they say "ok, Teo won a razor thin decision." It wasn't razor thin but at least they finally admit that the right man won.

With the Haney fight, we're at the "could've gone either way" stage now, it might stay there since this fight was closer than the Lopez one but people still needed time for their biases and emotions to settle down before they could score the fight objectively.

[ColdBlooded]

The first 6 rounds, loma didn't do anything, and i remember i was on the loma got robbed boat.

Haney got most of the first 6 round and he barely did anything, but still did more than loma.

Idk what his strategy is but it aint working.

Huh? Remember the combinations Loma landed in 2 and 3?

[ColdBlooded]

Regardless of who you think won, we can all agree than none of them really set themselves apart from the other one, moving on this will have an asterisk on the record of whichever fighter got the decision and the only way to resolve this is by having a rematch. If I were Haney I wouldn't move on without a rematch, also rematches always favor the younger fighters. Only problem will be making the weight.

If Loma had gotten the decision, there wouldn't have been any controversy. He lsnded more and cleaner in most of the rounds. There's a reason so many boxers, trainers, etc. condemned the decision.

Rematches sometimes favor the younger fighter. But they can also favor the smarter fighter, as happened in Mayweather-Maidana, Mayweather-Castillo, Kovalev-Ward, Pacquiao-Bradley, Pacquiao-Marquez, and so on. And Lomachenko was clearly the smarter fighter in the fight. Haney did some good work but seemed to run out of ideas.