Teofimo Lopez should be on the P4P list

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  • The Big Dunn
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    #11
    Originally posted by famicommander

    Catterall should be the lineal champion but he's not. It sucks that it happened that way and both Martin and Catterall deserve title shots ASAP, but we have to live with what the judges gave us.
    I’m fine with this. This is similar to the point I made to Shoulderroll.

    If we go by actual wins and losses and not perceived, Haney has to be above Teo.

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    • MikeyMike100
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      #12
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn

      I think that is reasonable but shortsighted because Charlo doesnt have the Kambosos level loss but did KO undefeated JRock at 154.

      The question is where we put the 2016 KO win over JRock?

      That was Jermall Charlo 160 pounder. Jermell never fought Julian Williams. Also the Harrison loss is on par with the Kambosos loss.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn

        I’m fine with this. This is similar to the point I made to Shoulderroll.

        If we go by actual wins and losses and not perceived, Haney has to be above Teo.
        Ya if you count Haneys win over Lomachenko which 90% of people think he lost and I dont think it was even a close fight. So its not like you can say it couldve gone either way

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          #14
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn

          I’m fine with this. This is similar to the point I made to Shoulderroll.

          If we go by actual wins and losses and not perceived, Haney has to be above Teo.
          Does anyone actually think that Haney beats Teo, especially at 140? I don't think he beats Tank or Shakur at 135 either.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn

            I think that is reasonable but shortsighted because Charlo doesnt have the Kambosos level loss but did KO undefeated JRock at 154.

            The question is where we put the 2016 KO win over JRock?
            Wrong charlo. Jermall stopped j rock not jermell.

            Jermell stopped undefeated Lubin

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              #16
              Originally posted by MikeyMike100
              That was Jermall Charlo 160 pounder. Jermell never fought Julian Williams. Also the Harrison loss is on par with the Kambosos loss.

              Jermell avenged his loss. Teo didnt

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                #17
                Originally posted by Hustle

                Jermell avenged his loss. Teo didnt
                Ok still wins over
                Lomachenko
                Taylor
                Commey
                Nakatani are a better top 4

                Than

                Harrison
                Castano
                Lubin
                Rosario

                And Teofimo Lopez did it at 2 different weight classes.

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                  #18
                  Teo easily defeated the former, undisputed 140 champ and the consensus number 1 guy at that weight.

                  Of course Teo belongs on the p4p list - where he belongs on that list is another debate.

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                  • Regge
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                    #19
                    He should 100% be on the list and I believe he will when the Ring updates it.. they had Taylor at 7 before his loss so Teo should definitely be on It but then again the Ring is biased AF

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MikeyMike100

                      Ok still wins over
                      Lomachenko
                      Taylor
                      Commey
                      Nakatani are a better top 4

                      Than

                      Harrison
                      Castano
                      Lubin
                      Rosario

                      And Teofimo Lopez did it at 2 different weight classes.
                      Austin trout win was better than commey and nakatani.

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