It's time to put respeck on Derevyanchenko's name. Only Big Charlo was able to deal with him without struggling.

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  • Combat Talk Radio
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    It's time to put respeck on Derevyanchenko's name. Only Big Charlo was able to deal with him without struggling.

    Jaime Munguia actually did fairly well. But as I said on the podcast, Derevyanchenko is arguably one of the toughest gatekeepers we've seen since Darnell Boone. Almost everyone has a rough night with this guy, he's highly skilled. If he hadn't gotten dropped he probably would have had his hand raised against Munguia, and Harvey Dock saved Golovkin from a counted KD against him.

    But this also means, Big Charlo is better than he gets credit for. Not as good as his little brother in terms of wanting all the smoke in his division, but highly skilled, top level. Charlo did better than Jacobs, better than Golovkin, and better than Munguia, against a younger version of Derevyanchenko. It's too bad that Charlo's fight took place during the pandemic, so he didn't have a live crowd and likely, not the same level of exposure.

    Of that list, Golovkin was praised by NSB as the best.

    So...we now can use Derevyanchenko to clearly answer some questions.
    • Munguia is not a bum. He's been protected, but he's clearly skilled. Erik Morales has done a great job with the guy, you could see flashes of brilliance with his performance. Head-hunts too much though (just like Morales tended to do).
    • Jacobs might be right around the same gatekeeper level as Derevyanchenko and likely always was.
    • Golovkin is also skilled, but it's more about his durability than elite skill.
    • Carlos Adames should not have gotten his hand raised.
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    Derevyanchenko is a spent force. Charlo only fought him when Derev was no longer fresh and with a very recent grueling, punishing fight with GGG. Let's not fool ourselves.

    Derev is a PBC fighter and Charlo only fought him when he's already war torn. Explain that.
    Last edited by jqSide; 06-11-2023, 10:54 AM.

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      #3
      Originally posted by jqside
      Derevyanchenko is a spent force. Charlo only fought him when Derev was no longer fresh and with a very recent grueling, punishing fight with GGG. Let's not fool ourselves.

      Derev is a PBC fighter and Charlo only fought him when he's already war torn. Explain that.
      The version Derevyanchenko that Charlo fought was 3 years younger than the version Munguia went life or death with. Explain that.

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      • Regge
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        #4
        Wtf are you on get off the pipe Dervenchenko was beating charlo up for some rds too.

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          Less than a year after he went to war with Golovkin, he fought Charlo. That may or may not have been a factor in Charlo's relatively easy win.

          I thought he deserved no worse than a draw vs Adames, which was more than a year after his loss to Charlo.

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          • Brother Mouzone
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            #6
            Derev tuffer than a 2$ steak , dude is a warrior !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              #7
              Originally posted by Regge
              Wtf are you on get off the pipe Dervenchenko was beating charlo up for some rds too.
              Never said he didn't, I said Charlo didn't struggle. And he didn't.

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              • PBR Streetgang
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                From what I recall (and it's been a while), Charlo won about 8 rounds to 4 but I thought Derevyenchenko put him under some duress in the later rounds and may have hurt him to the body at one point. I enjoyed that fight and Charlo have the Ukrainian fighter respect in his post fight interview.

                The Technician is one tough man, he's been in some wars and absorbed a lot of punishment.

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                  He is a tough dude, I like him.

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                  • jqSide
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                    I would have given Charlo1 props had the part-time boxer fought Derevyanchenko first before Jacobs, Culcay and Golovkin did. But the PBC boxer had to wait till the Ukrainian warrior take 3 fights first and is battle weary. And Derevyanchenko have always been with PBC. Easy fight to make.

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