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  • #51
    Originally posted by Fanofreason View Post
    Wilder would KO him in round 1. There is a reason Joshua continues to not fight Fury or Wilder
    You're a fan of reason? Give me a break. If you knew anything you'd know that Joshua already tried to make the Fury and Wilder fights and they weren't interested. Fury tried to make it look like Joshua was ducking him recently because Joshua wasn't interested in wasting time negotiating with Fury and all his nonsense and he already had it planned who he wants to fight this year.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      What people seem to overlook in this fight is? Wilder is getting hit from the start, and hit by a considerably more powerful puncher than Fury.

      Lets all be honest, Tyson Fury at no point in his career has been seen as a monster puncher 'His punching power is actually one of his worst attributes'.

      Still Fury was able to legitimately knock-out Wilder in their 3rd fight.

      I think Fury showed in his last fight vs Chisora III 'The level of his power'.

      Chisora was semi-retired, and his trademark durability is nowhere near the level it used to be. Fury still could not decked or even force a legitimate stoppage.

      If Chisora was left to fight on vs Fury, he would of survived the full 12 rounds.

      Joshua's speed and athleticism is miles better than people make out, and he has proven time and time again? That from mid-long range, he is a extremely capable boxer.

      So therefore for as long as this fight plays out 'Joshua is most like going to be out boxing Wilder, and landing punches'.

      The pivotal moment in the fight will be when Wilder lands his punches 'How Joshua comes through that power, and composers himself'.

      That will be the challenge for Joshua, and a challenge he must overcome. If Joshua gets overly shook, and does not fight through the power 'Then the fight will move more towards Wilder'.

      But like I said, people must understand 'I expect Joshua to be landing on Wilder and out boxing him'. And if Fury's power is shaking Wilder 'Then Joshua's power is going to shake Wilder'.

      Joshua in terms of brute strength is also comparable if not greater than Fury 'And we all know this was the area of Fury's game which bothered Wilder. To the point were Wilder attempted to pump himself up into a Super Heavyweight for their 3rd fight'.

      Joshua in his last fight, displayed certain skills he has never really shown before i.e Joshua was wrestling Franklin on the inside and totally disrupting his work 'One of Wilder's worst attributes along with his overall technical ability is his brute strength'.

      Note; It is still a close fight to call, but Joshua has the ability to takes rounds off Wilder, potentially hurt Wilder, and Joshua is in the top 2-3 best ever technical boxers Wilder has ever faced etc.



      Fury and Chisora are rather close friends, so tbh, I was surprised that he gave him the beating that he did. I think people are underestimating Joshua, largely because of the loss to Ruiz and subsequent reluctance to go for broke and let his hands go as he used to. He can't be tentative nor timid at all with Wilder. AJ will need to find that killer instinct to hurt Wilder, because Deontay will surely try to hurt him.
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      • #53
        Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

        Ha ha cause an upset? Josh is favourite. Hope wilderbdont retire after Josh beats him. I want wilder v jared/sanchez/dubois/zhan/usyk
        Bet the farm if enough sentimental AJ fans put enough on him to make him the favorite. I see this as even odds that Joshua doesn't stumble against his summertime tune up on his way to Wilder's waiting fists, as he's done twice before.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by SUBZER0ED View Post

          Fury and Chisora are rather close friends, so tbh, I was surprised that he gave him the beating that he did. I think people are underestimating Joshua, largely because of the loss to Ruiz and subsequent reluctance to go for broke and let his hands go as he used to. He can't be tentative nor timid at all with Wilder. AJ will need to find that killer instinct to hurt Wilder, because Deontay will surely try to hurt him.
          If Wilder has to come and chase Joshua in this fight, that could actually play into Joshua's game.

          You are saying things like 'Because Wilder will surely hurt him'.

          But that statement mate, does not describe how Wilder will go about that?

          Joshua has the ability to take rounds off Wilder and out box him, and he can most likely hurt Wilder considerably 'Joshua is the most powerful puncher Wilder would of ever fought'.

          I rate Wilder in today's era of Heavyweights 'But I am not getting out of hand with his rating'.

          Both fighters can win, but Joshua can win in a higher number of ways through various tactics 'I don't think Wilder has that same kind of scope in this particular fight'.

          Joshua is the best pure boxer in the Heavyweight division outside of Fury & Usyk 'I personally don't think Joshua needs to fight Wilder head on, LIKE Fury did vs Wilder II & III'.

          Fury had to fight Wilder in this manner, because for all of Fury's boxing ability 'He is a clumsy fighter, who makes unforced errors in all of his fights'. Fury attempted to out box Wilder during their first fight, and he was backed up all night 'And decked twice, once real bad'.

          Joshua in comparison, his technique is actually more text book 'And he is not a clumsy fighter'.

          Note: I have not actually picked a definitive winner. But how I analyse match ups is through a process of building a case or developing a theory for each fighter 'Joshua's theory is gaining momentum' etc.




          Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 06-13-2023, 03:44 PM.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

            If Wilder has to come and chase Joshua in this fight, that could actually play into Joshua's game.

            You are saying things like 'Because Wilder will surely hurt him'.

            But that statement mate, does not describe how Wilder will go about that?

            Joshua has the ability to take rounds off Wilder and out box him, and he can most likely hurt Wilder considerably 'Joshua is the most powerful puncher Wilder would of ever fought'.

            I rate Wilder in today's era of Heavyweights 'But I am not getting out of hand with his rating'.

            Both fighters can win, but Joshua can win in a higher number of ways through various tactics 'I don't think Wilder has that same kind of scope in this particular fight'.

            Joshua is the best pure boxer in the Heavyweight division outside of Fury & Usyk 'I personally don't think Joshua needs to fight Wilder head on, LIKE Fury did vs Wilder II & III'.

            Fury had to fight Wilder in this manner, because for all of Fury's boxing ability 'He is a clumsy fighter, who makes unforced errors in all of his fights'. Fury attempted to out box Wilder during their first fight, and he was backed up all night 'And decked twice, once real bad'.

            Joshua in comparison, his technique is actually more text book 'And he is not a clumsy fighter'.

            Note: I have not actually picked a definitive winner. But how I analyse match ups is through a process of building a case or developing a theory for each fighter 'Joshua's theory is gaining momentum' etc.



            I said Wilder will surely TRY to hurt Joshua, bro.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by hugh grant View Post

              Ha ha that's how wilder got koed by fury. Trainer didn't teach wilder to move his head. I've seen some still shots where wilder looked scared.
              in Vegas wilder will be favourite but in UK Josh will be favourite.
              Josh not really koed anyone of late but I feel Josh will ko wilder. Josh won't want wilder to hang around to land a perfect for 2 seconds ko. Plus fury given Josh the blueprint to put wilder on backfoot
              It won't be in Vegas or UK. Saudi's are getting it.

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              • #57
                To be honest, I am very excited about this fight; Joshua vs Wilder. Also, I am very excited about this card in general; As Fury and Usyk being the headliners with the winners of each fight squaring off against each other. It's almost like a tournament. It's easily the biggest boxing event of the year.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  To be honest, I am very excited about this fight; Joshua vs Wilder. Also, I am very excited about this card in general; As Fury and Usyk being the headliners with the winners of each fight squaring off against each other. It's almost like a tournament. It's easily the biggest boxing event of the year.
                  Wilder vs Joshua does not need Fury vs Usyk to happen 'On the same night'.

                  I am not so sure, whether those fights happen on the same night.

                  I sense that Tyson Fury, will not appreciate a event and tournament being dictated towards him.

                  Fury likes to engineer his own events, at his own pace and WHEN he wants.

                  Joshua, Wilder, Usyk have all been speaking positively about this tournament type event 'But Fury has not' etc.

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