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Because Shawn Porter was in a cash out mode! His own Father said he didn't prepare like he was supposed to. He got the check and retired! What was Crawford's lawsuit about? It was about Bob Arum blocking his shine! Here you are talking about PBC, but Crawford couldn't even get Manny Pacquiao, and they were at TR at the same time! WHY? Oscar left, Floyd left, Cotto left, Mikey left, and Manny left! Crawford made the wrong move...PERIOD!
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Tyson Fury vs. Deontay Wilder fought because Arum thought it was a money-maker, worthy of a co-promotion! He did NOT think that about Spence vs. Crawford, and has said so many times! After Crawford fought Molina and Diaz (Both on ESPN only), guess what Arum did? He sued Al Haymon, and lost! Maybe you just don't know the history of the sport, and why so many people left TR, and why Mikey sued Arum, and now Crawford is suing Arum? This is just a sample of what Arum does:
Bob Arum admits he killed Pacquiao-Crawford fight, didn’t want to see Manny take damage
Arum fields questions about his perspective on Pacquiao’s ongoing career.
By Wil Esco@wil_esco Jan 29, 2019
On if he would have any reservations of making a fight between Pacquiao and Terence Crawford:
“Well I killed the fight. Yeah. [I wouldn’t want that for Manny] because I know how it would end...Not that I knew that it would end in serious disability for Manny — that I wouldn’t know — but as a fight it would only end one way.
“Forget my emotions, I wouldn’t wanna see him take that kind of damage because it might affect his future life — quality of his future life.”
So you see, he didn't care about Crawford's career at all! When Mayweather retired, Pacquiao was the best WW in the game, and he proved it by beating Keith Thurman on PBC! Do you understand what a victory over Pacquiao would've done for Crawford's career??? Anyway, Crawford did what Mikey, and Manny did before him...finally! He went to PBC, and got the BIG BAG! Arum thought it couldn't be done, but it got done! THANK YOU AL HAYMON!
How Errol Spence Jr. vs. Terence Crawford finally came to fruition
Mike Coppinger, ESPNJul 28, 2023, 09:25 AM ET
Crawford said he had never spoken to an opponent before about deal points "because there was no need for me to do that."
"The stakes is real high at this point and I recognized that, he recognized that, and that's why we came together and made the fight that all the fans wanted to be made."
Said Spence: "It's just dope that you got two fighters that humble they self and basically put other stuff to the side and talk about it and try to make the fight happen."
Crawford said he "learned a lot in these last months of doing and handling my own career and talking with Al Haymon and talking with my handlers, my lawyers and just learning the game.
"It's so much that goes into making a megafight like this that nobody understands. They think that two fighters just agree and bam, here you have it. But there's a lot of missed detail that goes into making a megafight that a lot of people don't know and don't understand. And then they fault the fighters for not taking the fight because things wasn't right in the contract."
https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/...-came-fruition
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Can you believe this guy?
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Advice to anybody trying to come up in this thread, and debate with Fury's hardcore fans 'Proclaiming that he is the biggest draw in Heavyweight boxing, and that he has genuinely been actively trying to fight other top Heavyweights since Wilder'.
Do not debate with them or try to make them understand reason 'Because to be a hardcore Fury fan, you have to lie and betray yourself on a weekly basis'. There is no other way to be consistent with your support of Fury as a Champion without doing this. None.
The hardcore fans with the most conscience have been for sometime now, very quiet. But certain other folk are in a battle, and they seek to at times continue with this abusive relationship dynamic as a hardcore Fury fan 'It is fascinating to watch'.
Just sit back and watch this Fury reign ether unfold, progress, or digress 'Because it is up to Fury, right now he cannot by any metric be rated as a all-time great Champion. Great fighter, talented within this era of Heavyweights. But statistically and upon feats of achievement, he just does not have the resume to be ACTING like he is already at this level.
As a Champion your requirements are to take on all comers and fight your nearest competition. Throughout boxing history this is what all great Champions have seek to do, all of them 'It is what Wladimir Kiltschko did, who was the last great Heavyweight Champion. It was what Anthony Joshua attempted to do, and in reality why he eventually lost to Usyk'.
Tyson Fury since he has become the WBC Heavyweight Champion, does not want to fight and live by these requirements and tenants. For me he seems to think he is at a level, where he is beyond these requirements.
Now fighters need to be worthy of a chance to fight Fury, there is some sort of mystical worthiness rating where ether a fighter gets a chance or he does not in the mass opinion of Fury's hardcore fans.
When Wladimir Kiltschko fought Tyson Fury, the perception of Fury in the boxing world was that he was a clown 'That was not my personal perception, but many had this perception. Fury was not a big boxing draw at all. Still Kiltschko took on all comers, and fought Fury 'Because Fury was statistically one of his nearest competition'.
That is what great Champions do, this is what Tyson Fury is not doing.
How long can this continue for? The game moves on, and Fury is not bigger than the game.
Note: Fury's hardcore fans, should be very concerned. If you claim to know boxing, and have experience in the sport. Then you will know that Fury really should be fighting at a level, but he is not. And all of his nearest competition, whether people like to admit it or not are fighting at a better level them him. Combined this with Fury historic lack of work ethic, this is not exactly ideal.
I have said this before, and I will say it again. Tyson Fury throughout his entire career has been a master at making moves outside the ring, he can read a fight and landscape very astutely 'He knows innately when to make fights or when to fight certain fighters to maximize the chances of him winning. And there is nothing wrong with that, because that is a skill in professional boxing'.
Out of the top-3 Heavyweights of this era, not including Uysk. Fury has been promoted the best 'Inside the ring on a fight to fight basis'.
But for the first time in his career in December 2022, Tyson Fury made a tactical mistake. When he offered Joshua the chance to fight him, which then he sabotaged'.
This was a mistake on two levels. 1: Fury should of made it so, that Joshua could not get out of that fight 'And Fury could of if he wanted to, but he did not'. 2: Tyson Fury was trying to take advantage of Joshua and his then perceived vulnerability 'It was common knowledge that people were mocking and questioning Joshua's well-being',
Tyson Fury saw this as a opportunity to GET Joshua at this point in his career 'Tyson Fury was being opportunistic'. Any man here who has any experience just being around other men in certain environments, YOU all know why Fury stepped to Joshua last year during that time 'It was a completely opportunistic move'.
And Fury's moves that he made toward Usyk were similar, Fury tried his best to create a angle 'Fury out of nowhere offered Usyk a fight offer 5-6 weeks out from the then proposed fight date'. Not only was the offer disrespectfully, the timing of the offer 'It was blatantly obvious that Fury was trying to catch Usyk off guard'.
We all know how that went? It all backfired badly. All these sociopolitical games and moves Fury has always been so astute and great with 'All back fired'.
At the time, I was one of the first people to suspect 'That Fury is deliberately turning himself into a heel, Fury has planned all of this. The Riddler, Fury operates in ways that will not be apparent to certain people.
But as Fury's reign has progressed, I lean towards that Fury has just made tactical mistakes 'Fury should of already fought both Joshua & Usyk and potentially beaten them'.
The longer these fights take to get made, this will increase the likely-hood of ether Joshua or Usyk winning 'Because if they keep winning, they will only build momentum'.
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All of the big four Heavyweights may be decreasing, that is all speculation but really it is cliche observation 'So this is now a competition of who is going to be the last man standing. There is major emphasis on the long game of each of these fighters, Fury, Usyk, Joshua and Wilder'.
They are all now locked in a competition of who will be the last man standing from their era 'And the battle has became this type of dynamic, because of Fury's two tactical mistakes sociologically'.
And I don't think this type of competitive dynamic, is best suited towards Fury abilities historically. Because the evidence suggest that those other top Heavyweights have a by far better work ethic, and long game etc.
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That was quite a tome my friend, and I read every word.
Speaking strictly for myself, I'm more of a BOXING supporter than a "HC Tyson Fury fan". I respect his position as the Heavyweight Champion of the World, and as an historical observer, I've no choice but to acknowledge that there is just one of those. I will present my opionion that 3 Deontay Wilders = 2 Usyks, 2 Joshuas and 2 Ruiz', with change left over.
However, I side with you 100 Percent that The Champ has been a reluctant king, and needs to step it up. His is not a reign that is being conducted in the Ali > Holmes > Tyson > Lewis > Klitschko way to which we're accustomed, and it's very frustrating.
If I was his Ras*****:
1. KO Ngannou quick, no playing.
2. Toss Usyk in a corner a Cooney-Norton him, grab those belts.
3. Meet Joshua in London, its not too late.
4. Meet Zhang in Beijing, Hong Kong, Machu or Shanghai.
Then, maybe the critics might be silenced.
.......maybe.
Anyway, it's another $250 million to sock away for all those kids.
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