Crawford vs Spence has the hallmarks of Hearns vs SRL

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  • sunny31
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    #11
    Originally posted by BoxingParadigm

    I can see it play out something like this. I think Crawford may get the stoppage late.
    I think a lot of people feel the same way, I really feel the fight will live up to the hype though, there will be layers to it and ebbs and flows.

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      #12
      Originally posted by buddyr
      if Crawford gets the stoppage, it has to be within the first 6 rounds. Anything after, Spence is still there throwing 50 punches a round late. I don't know who will win, but I'm leaning towards Crawford. It's 50/50. For a fighter to win, the must dictate the style they want to use. If it's a boxing match from the outside, Bud wins easily. If it's an inside fight, Bud gets ktfo.
      I disagree with the outside thing, I actually think Spence is the more consistent boxer from the outside, he drops less rounds and can really box well behind his jab when he needs too.

      Crawford is a great counterpuncher and boxer, both guys are really well rounded so the fight will come down to small nuances.

      Sometimes too much success early can put you into a bad spot later in the fight inadvertently. When SRL fought Hearns, I don't think it was his strategy to lose the early boxing rounds, up to that point in his career SRL had outboxed everybody, but in the early rounds of that fight for the first time in his career he was getting comprehensively outboxed from the outside, so he was forced to change and show something different, in the mid rounds he started to push the pace and put Hearns under pressure, Hearns started becoming disorganised and in the later rounds, slowly but surely SRL started becoming the puncher, and eventually stopped him.

      I think Crawford will drop the early rounds and similarly he will have to go looking for Spence, at that point the fight will become very interesting, and I think it will reveal a lot about both guys. Spence is the sharper inside fighter but I think it's dangerous for him to be there as Crawford hits you with snappy shots from strange angles and I think he's generally better at landing shots which his opponents are not prepared for, which is why he gets knockouts.

      Spence might have more natural power but his shots are more conventional and predictable. I do think at some points in the fight they will start exchanging punches on the inside and both guys are capable of hurting eacher so it will be super interesting.

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        #13
        Originally posted by sunny31

        I disagree with the outside thing, I actually think Spence is the more consistent boxer from the outside, he drops less rounds and can really box well behind his jab when he needs too.

        Crawford is a great counterpuncher and boxer, both guys are really well rounded so the fight will come down to small nuances.

        Sometimes too much success early can put you into a bad spot later in the fight inadvertently. When SRL fought Hearns, I don't think it was his strategy to lose the early boxing rounds, up to that point in his career SRL had outboxed everybody, but in the early rounds of that fight for the first time in his career he was getting comprehensively outboxed from the outside, so he was forced to change and show something different, in the mid rounds he started to push the pace and put Hearns under pressure, Hearns started becoming disorganised and in the later rounds, slowly but surely SRL started becoming the puncher, and eventually stopped him.

        I think Crawford will drop the early rounds and similarly he will have to go looking for Spence, at that point the fight will become very interesting, and I think it will reveal a lot about both guys. Spence is the sharper inside fighter but I think it's dangerous for him to be there as Crawford hits you with snappy shots from strange angles and I think he's generally better at landing shots which his opponents are not prepared for, which is why he gets knockouts.

        Spence might have more natural power but his shots are more conventional and predictable. I do think at some points in the fight they will start exchanging punches on the inside and both guys are capable of hurting eacher so it will be super interesting.
        Who southpaw right hook you see coming out on top

        both guys are susceptible to looping right hands

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          #14
          Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
          Who southpaw right hook you see coming out on top

          both guys are susceptible to looping right hands
          Good question, I think Crawfords punches in general are a little wider and have more loop on them, but occassionally he mixes in something shorter and more direct, with more venom on it. I'm also not sure if he will start southpaw or righty.

          Spence throws everything more compact, to my eye anyway, including that right hook.

          I think Spence might land his better early, it seems Crawford takes a few rounds to adjust to punches coming his way, but as the fight goes on and Spence becomes more fatigued I think Crawford will start landing his over Spence's jab, that is what I visualise when I picture them in the ring

          What do you think?

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            #15
            Originally posted by sunny31

            Good question, I think Crawfords punches in general are a little wider and have more loop on them, but occassionally he mixes in something shorter and more direct, with more venom on it. I'm also not sure if he will start southpaw or righty.

            Spence throws everything more compact, to my eye anyway, including that right hook.

            I think Spence might land his better early, it seems Crawford takes a few rounds to adjust to punches coming his way, but as the fight goes on and Spence becomes more fatigued I think Crawford will start landing his over Spence's jab, that is what I visualise when I picture them in the ring

            What do you think?
            Long night for Errol if Terence takes away Errol’s jab with counters

            He could then bait Errol into exchanges

            when thinking about this match I forgot that Terence is a slow starter who often gets caught as he’s collecting that data

            perhaps Terence will righty stance more than usual against Errol

            Errol 1st third of the fight
            Terence 2nd third of the fight
            Errol final third of the fight?

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              #16
              The fight is mostly similar to Miguel Cotto vs Floyd Mayweather Junior 'Stylistically, and in terms of the fights significance for this era'.

              Miguel Cotto vs Floyd Mayweather Junior was a more significant fight than Manny Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather Junior.

              Cotto vs Mayweather Junior was the real Super fight of that era.

              By the time Pacquiao vs Mayweather Junior came around? Mayweather Junior was miles outside his peak, and really should of been beaten by Pacquiao. Also Pacquiao himself had been ****** out and beaten multiple times coming into that fight 'But I believe out of the two fighters, Pacquiao's game had not decreased as much as Mayweather Junior's'.

              Crawford & Spence Junior are still undefeated and are at very similar stages of their careers. They have beaten all other fighters within their era 'They have ether both beaten these fighters or those fighters have retired. The only fighter from their era who they have not faced and beaten is Keith Thurman'.

              So I think the fight in terms of historical significance is at welter-weight similar to Cotto vs Mayweather Junior 'But it is a more significant fight than even that match up'.

              Universally Crawford vs Spence Junior is the most significant all america title fight since Evander Holyfield vs Mike Tyson I.

              Note: Pacquiao should of beaten Mayweather Junior when they finally fought or at-least pushed him a lot closer 'But he did not'. Mayweather Junior beat Pacquiao while not even getting out of 2nd gear 'Tactically he beat Pacquiao and in some ways masked his true form. If Pacquiao for me, would of just thrown caution to the wind and aimed to just land punches anywhere on Mayweather? The fight may have altered.

              Great fighters can win fights sometimes they are not suppose to win 'So to his credit Floyd Mayweather Junior found a way, to make his fight vs Pacquiao easier really then it should of been' etc.


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              • buddyr
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                #17
                Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                Who southpaw right hook you see coming out on top

                both guys are susceptible to looping right hands
                I think Crawford has to win this fight from a conventional stance. Spence, for some reason, can't get away from a straight right hand. From the southpaw stance, someone that he uses a LOT, Bud gets tagged a bit.

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                • SilverMiles
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by TheIronMike
                  Maybe Hearns-SRL 2....those guys fought young the first time, below 24 years old I think
                  Leonard was 25 and Hearns was 22. Back when young guys at the top actually fought after cleaning out the division.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by sunny31

                    I was talking more the pattern of the fight but I know where you are coming from. Boxing is currently at its lowest point during the time I've been posting here, and it stems from fights not getting made.
                    Yeah that's my bad I didn't read the post before adding my two pence worth haha

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                      #20
                      I hope so!! If Spence and Crawford deliver a trilogy of great fights that would be GREAT for the sport of Boxing!!!

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