Why is Fury considered an all time great heavyweight?

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  • TheIronMike
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    #21
    He isn't, anyone who claims otherwise is a dumbass. I'm not saying he's a bum, but he isn't Top 10.

    I would group him with the likes of Bowe. High Skillset, but lazy af

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    • Hype job
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      #22
      Fury would dance circles around Ali

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      • TMLT87
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        #23
        Originally posted by Nash out
        Who on Mike Tyson's resume when he was "prime" would Tyson Fury get any credit at all for beating? It's too easy to crap on anyone's resume. Nash out
        Holmes, Spinks, Tubbs, Tucker, Bruno, Pinklon, Bonecrusher, Berbick and Carl Williams were all better than Whyte and Del Boy imo. Some of them perhaps better than Wilder and old Wlad. Ruddock as well although that was post-prime Tyson or whatever.

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          #24
          No one considers him that, he has two good wins and that’s it.

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          • Hustle
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            #25
            Originally posted by WillieWild114
            Is it because he defeated Klitschko? If that’s the reason why isn’t AJ consider an all time great for beating Klitschko along with Corrie Sanders and Lamon Brewster. Chris Bryd defeated Vitali Klitschko why isn’t he considered great ?
            Fury is the only one to dethrone wlad.

            Sanders and Brewster beat wlad before he was a world champ. Wbo wasnt a world title in 2003.

            And Joshua beat wlad after he already lost his title to fury.

            I'm not saying fury is a all time heavyweight but he beat wlad who had 18 straight title defenses. And then beat another heavyweight with 10 defenses. He beat the 2 longest tenured champs of his era

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            • hugh grant
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              #26
              Fury only beat a 40 year old wlad, but in his country which adds a bit of gravitas and WIlder in backyard which again gains gravitas. But fury h2h is still favoured against anyone in history by many. So Bud could be favoured to beat Floyd or Pac with a basic resume also h2h. Now we arent saying Bud is an ATG, but h2h is a different kettle of fish.

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              • WillieWild114
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                #27
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                Fury only beat a 40 year old wlad, but in his country which adds a bit of gravitas and WIlder in backyard which again gains gravitas. But fury h2h is still favoured against anyone in history by many. So Bud could be favoured to beat Floyd or Pac with a basic resume also h2h. Now we arent saying Bud is an ATG, but h2h is a different kettle of fish.
                These hypothetical battles are pointless because we would never truly know who he could beat in any era im sure Fraizer,Tyson,Bowie,Lewis would dominate any era too but we would never truly know

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                • Silence
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                  #28
                  He is H2H goat. I don't care about fans' criteria to be ATG.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by TMLT87

                    Holmes, Spinks, Tubbs, Tucker, Bruno, Pinklon, Bonecrusher, Berbick and Carl Williams were all better than Whyte and Del Boy imo. Some of them perhaps better than Wilder and old Wlad. Ruddock as well although that was post-prime Tyson or whatever.
                    You must also take into consideration, how fighters were perceived at the time when they fought.

                    Razor Ruddock was a extremely powerful puncher, who arguable skill for skill was a better fighter than Wilder technically.

                    I have seen the video's. There was mass intimidation which surrounded Ruddock's power.

                    Relative speaking Michael Spinks was the Usyk of the 80's 'Coming into his fight with Mike Tyson. Spinks was a Olympic Champion, Undisputed Light Heavyweight Champion, and had just beaten Larry Holmes twice back to back becoming the IBF World Heavyweight Champion' i.e Whether one of the Holmes fights were close, the facts are Spinks achieved two wins over Holmes who is a all-time great Heavyweight fighter.

                    Mike Tyson blasted Micheal Spinks out in just over 90 seconds.

                    In comparison Tyson Fury has backed out of two fights with Usyk to date 'Fury really has very few emphatic wins at World or Elite level'.

                    Statistically Tyson Fury is not a greater Champion than Mike Tyson.

                    I understand that certain folk within this current society, get carried away with whatever is hot or whoever is winning in the moment.

                    Tyson Fury is the current WBC World Heavyweight Champion 'And he has two great wins on his resume'. Fury is the winning Heavyweight right now, THAT IS ALL.

                    Statistically or with his feats of achievement. If people are honest when analyzing Fury's career, then they would have to admit? That he has achieved nothing that no other great Heavyweight has not already achieved.

                    Tyson Fury is a great fighter, but I don't rate him very highly as a Champion.

                    Hypothetical match ups don't really count, what matter is? What fighters and Champions do during their reign.

                    Tyson Fury is the number 1 Heavyweight currently right now on merit 'But he cannot claim to be unequivocally the best Heavyweight of his era, and I am not so sure his resume will still be as revered if he is to suffer a loss'.

                    Tyson Fury is still in battle, this era has not reached it's conclusion 'The competition between Fury, Wilder, Usyk and Joshua is all about the long game' etc.





                    Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-31-2023, 12:46 PM.

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                    • The D3vil
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Lupara

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