Unpopular opinion: Speaking literally, Oleksandr Usyk and Tank Davis are the best fighters pound for pound

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  • _Rexy_
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    #31
    Originally posted by F l i c k e r
    Naoya Inoue should not be forgotten.

    Tank and Inoue are like 1a and 1b in my opinion. Usyk isn’t their level.
    If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100.

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    • F l i c k e r
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      #32
      Originally posted by _Rexy_

      If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100.
      Not 100 out of 100 but it would be ATG boxing classics they would put on.

      Plus, they aren't too far off in size. They are both 5'5" while Gervonta lives on an American diet and Naoya lives on a Japanese diet.

      if Naoya took a year to put on lean mass he would be quite similar. He supposedly walks around 138. So if he put on 10lbs of lean muscle mass, which isn't impossible after a year of strength training. he'd be walking around 148 and cutting to 135.

      Tank it probably 150-ish, +/- 3? But Tank gets actually fat between fights or used to. I think he stays fit year round since the Barrios fight now. So he's probably walking around a lean 140-145.

      They aren't too far off realistically even though it seems like it from their weight classes being 4 divisions apart.

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      • -Kev-
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        #33
        Originally posted by _Rexy_

        If sizes were the same, Inoue beats Davis 100 times out of 100.
        You see, that’s a fair opinion. Problem is, and this goes for me too since I said Tank beats everyone on the P4P list by KO or decision, including Inoue. But when I start claiming Tank beats these guys 100/100 times, issue with that is Tank would be Inoue’s best opponent, and Inoue would be Tank’s best opponent to date.

        So how do you know Inoue beats tank 100/100 times? Tank struggled with Cruz? Okay, Inoue struggled with an old Donaire who already got schooled by Rigondeax, KO’ed badly by Walters, and dropped decisions to two guys a prime Donaire would beat Frampton and Magdaleno.

        I couldn’t really tell you who on Tank’s resume would make me say he beats Inoue 100/100 times. But you seem very sure. Who is it? Payano? Moloney? Butler? You realize Tank is better than any opponent on Inoue’s resume? And yes, Inoue is better than any opponent on Tank’s resume. But that’s my point. It sounds like you think Tank is so trash, that he doesn’t stand a chance vs Inoue.

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        • The D3vil
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          #34
          Originally posted by -Kev-

          Which dude?

          If it’s one dude, then that’s not really a lot of people. That sounds like an unpopular, minority opinion. He’s ranked pretty low in general. He just got his just due in his last fight, entered #10.
          Um, the person who started the thread.

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          • jas
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            #35
            Usyk only beat aj because aj gassed

            Fury is heavily favoured by the bookies to beat usyk. Usyk is campaigning at heavyweight. I wouldnt have usyk high up in p4p for that reason. Its trendy to rate usyk p4p and highly. He's charasmatic, ukranian, has good skillset.

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              #36
              Originally posted by -Kev-

              You see, that’s a fair opinion. Problem is, and this goes for me too since I said Tank beats everyone on the P4P list by KO or decision, including Inoue. But when I start claiming Tank beats these guys 100/100 times, issue with that is Tank would be Inoue’s best opponent, and Inoue would be Tank’s best opponent to date.

              So how do you know Inoue beats tank 100/100 times? Tank struggled with Cruz? Okay, Inoue struggled with an old Donaire who already got schooled by Rigondeax, KO’ed badly by Walters, and dropped decisions to two guys a prime Donaire would beat Frampton and Magdaleno.

              I couldn’t really tell you who on Tank’s resume would make me say he beats Inoue 100/100 times. But you seem very sure. Who is it? Payano? Moloney? Butler? You realize Tank is better than any opponent on Inoue’s resume? And yes, Inoue is better than any opponent on Tank’s resume. But that’s my point. It sounds like you think Tank is so trash, that he doesn’t stand a chance vs Inoue.
              Inoue didnt struggle with Donaire though. He lost 3 rounds out of 12, knocked him down, and should have gotten the stoppage. Sure he had a broken orbital, but if anything that shows it’s even a better performance to pull that off with one eye

              prime Donaire still loses to Walkers because that fight was at 126 and prime donaire fights at 115
              Last edited by _Rexy_; 06-01-2023, 03:47 PM.

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              • _Rexy_
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                #37
                Originally posted by jas
                Usyk only beat aj because aj gassed

                Fury is heavily favoured by the bookies to beat usyk. Usyk is campaigning at heavyweight. I wouldnt have usyk high up in p4p for that reason. It’s trendy to rate usyk p4p and highly. He's charasmatic, ukranian, has good skillset.
                Why did AJ gas in both fights then? Had nothing to do with Usyk boxing his ears off?

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                • -Kev-
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by The D3vil

                  Um, the person who started the thread.

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                  Ah, a common NSB species. Answers only the rhetorical question of the post, ignoring the real point because it’s too much to read.

                  At this point, I may have already lost you. I probably lost you after species. You’re probably replying to that sentence with something like “NSB doesn’t acktshually have its own species”. And then a meme to make it an extra clever reply.

                  Gotta love NSB. So sassy too, “Umm, like, whatever.” *snaps fingers and wobbles head left to right*

                  I’m going to keep this brief, because you’re not going to stick around for long. I’ve already lost a bunch of you. For every 161 people who landed on...


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                  • uppercut510
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                    #39
                    Usyk is the real deal i just hate how inactive he is, i guess tank is the face of boxing

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