Comments Thread For: Josh Taylor Has Requested That There Aren't Three American Judges For Teofimo Lopez Fight

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  • BillyBoxing
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    #41
    Originally posted by tkoboxingscene

    You've got one thing wrong: WBC didn't take a unilateral decision on the situation lomachenko petitioned the WBC to give him the french friez belt - it's a decision he made.
    Ho yeah they asked for It because they didn't want to be fully stripped. But the WBC put the pressure on TR and didn't want to wait for the full unification fight with Lopez.

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    • tkoboxingscene
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      #42
      Originally posted by BillyBoxing


      Yes but why Haney wasn't fighting someone his own size last week?

      Because boxing rules are circus and the A side can manipulate those rules as they want as long as they pay the commissions.

      Boxing is the only sport with garbage catchweight, sanctionned youtuber pro fights, rehydration clause, or 36 hours weigh in.

      You say Garcia should fight people his own size, talk about same day weigh in but you defend Haney fighting Loma with 36 hours to rehydrate.
      Double standard...
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      Because he has the belts and Loma had no leverage, duh. If you want a rehydration clause you can state as much, and if it's refused you can simply let go off the fight. Devin said he would never accept rehydration clause to fight Tank. I can accept that, instead of accepting the fight then b*#ching throughout the build-up and after the fight.

      I didn't defend ****, just stated the facts. I personally felt Devin shouldn't have even given Loma a shot at the belt, the fight came 4-years too late, Devin hasn't looked good at these last few weigh-ins. He should move to 140, but as long as he got the belts he has leverage and if anyone wants to fight him they have to contend with the fact that on fight night he will be north of welterweight. It's an occupational hazard.

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      • thack
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        #43
        Josh is one of the very few who thought the Loma / Haney fight could have gone either way. Him thinking he beat Catterall says it all. I do agree with him not wanting all American judges though as he is aware how bias they can be. Dave Moretti's scoring is nothing short of outrageous and makes a mockery of the sport.

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        • kiaba360
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          #44
          Originally posted by tkoboxingscene

          How is a rehydration clause an abuse of power? Fighters can avoid all this ****** whining by fighting people their own size. Y'all keep b*#ching about this, but y'all do realize at some point there were same day weigh-ins? A rehydration clause is actually still more advantageous to bigger guys compared to same day weigh-ins. Think about that before whine about this nonsense
          Norms have changed, we no longer live in a world of same-day weighs. The cash-cows are afforded the ability to to bend the rules/norms to their advantage, that's why it's an abuse. If you're a non-cash cow and your opponent is capable of rehydrating more than you, tough shxt for the smaller fighter. The objective remains the same: find a way to win.

          Only one sanctioning body (IBF) has a re-hydration limitation, correct?

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            #45
            Originally posted by kiaba360

            Norms have changed, we no longer live in a world of same-day weighs. The cash-cows are afforded the ability to to bend the rules/norms to their advantage, that's why it's an abuse. If you're a non-cash cow and your opponent is capable of rehydrating more than you, tough shxt for the smaller fighter. The objective remains the same: find a way to win.

            Only one sanctioning body (IBF) has a re-hydration limitation, correct?
            The norms have changed. Now it all comes down to leverage. If you have none you either bet on yourself and battle through the adversity or look for other opportunities, that's all there is to it until new norms are introduced.

            yes, you're correct.

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #46
              Josh trying to pretend he didnt just get a terrible hometown decision. Same with Teo.

              This should be Catterall defending all 4 belts against Sandor Martin.

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                #47
                Originally posted by thack
                Josh is one of the very few who thought the Loma / Haney fight could have gone either way. Him thinking he beat Catterall says it all. I do agree with him not wanting all American judges though as he is aware how bias they can be. Dave Moretti's scoring is nothing short of outrageous and makes a mockery of the sport.
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Josh trying to pretend he didnt just get a terrible hometown decision. Same with Teo.

                This should be Catterall defending all 4 belts against Sandor Martin.


                I assume it's difficult for fighters to be impartial about their own fights because they are the protagonists in their own boxing journey. Everyone else is a potential foe who has to be conquered. Let's say that Teo/Taylor is close and Teo gets the gift, Taylor is gonna feel like he got shafted.

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                • Smash
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by -Kev-

                  I just read that the top American judges make around $300k a year. Now i’m not sure how true that is, but if I were a top boxing promoter, I imagine $100k isn’t a ton of money. If a judge were to paid off, I imagine it would have to be worth their while. For example, investigations, scrutiny, fan backlash, and the accusations.

                  Which makes me wonder, IF a judge were to get paid off, I wonder what type of extra fee would make them happy and how is the money received?
                  i would say if u are a boxing judge and u dont toe the line thats wanted, u wont get the big gigs & they all want those big gigs, i doubt judges are paid off like with cash for example but they could also be

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                  • Smash
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by megas30

                    Everyone who has rewatched the fight is backtracking.
                    this fight is now infamous as the backtracking fight lol

                    why are all these people who were ringside rewatching a fight the just saw from the best seats in the house, why would they do that? i wouldnt anyway

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                    • ELPacman
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                      #50
                      That's a fair start to the horrible judging system we have when foreigners are involved in fights in the US. At least make the judges as neutral as possible. At least if they're still paid off, we can rule out country favoritism

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