Punch count: Why loma-haney was one of the worst robberies

[MikeyG]

Funny how we haven't seen any similar videos from the Haney crowd actually proving that Haney won enough rounds to win the fight. Because when you slow it down, it's obvious that Loma won the fight.

I don't generally like these slow down videos because they can distort what happened in the ring, but to be honest they can offer an interesting perspective on the fight
I still have problem to tell if the body shots of Haney landed, ones that Loma moves away from. Guy in the video doesn't count them, so I don't know.

[The D3vil]

Haney outlanded or tied Loma in 7 of the 12 rounds.

NOT a robbery.

You could argue Loma should've won by your SUBJECTIVE criteria, fine, but the guy who won OBJECTIVELY landed the most punches or tied in 5 of the first 6 rounds.

Loma didn't win 7 rounds in a row.

Any score from 115-113 Haney or Lomachenko is a correct score.

[joseph5620]

It wasn't a robbery and Lomachenko's crying is what seperates him from the ATGs.

There's an unhealthy arrogance in the way that he conducts himself. You can't just decide to show up in the 2nd half of the fight and then let your foot off the gas in the 12th. If he didn't feel entitled to have rounds that were scored competitively in his favour, he'd have committed himself more in the 12.

Of course some of this might be a limitation of his style. Taking things easy in the first half of the right so that he can up the tempo when they're tired. If that is his gameplan, he needs to take a leaf out of Mayweather's book and win the rounds cleanly.

100 percent.

[crimsonfalcon07]

I don't generally like these slow down videos because they can distort what happened in the ring, but to be honest they can offer an interesting perspective on the fight
I still have problem to tell if the body shots of Haney landed, ones that Loma moves away from. Guy in the video doesn't count them, so I don't know.

One of the ways to tell is if the fighter starts moving away before the shot lands, or if it lands on elbows. Either of those is likely a defended shot. Popping out or rotating are common and easy ways to defend a body shot without doing a block or parry. If the punch lands and then the fighter moves away, especially from point of contact, then it's probably a landed punch. That's where slowdowns help, because you can go frame by frame if you need to and see what moves first.

[Jsmooth9876]

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This guy did a good breakdown. Not sure why he didn't do the other rounds though

[Cypocryphy]

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This guy did a good breakdown. Not sure why he didn't do the other rounds though

Because it was unnecessary. Those rounds were so clearly Loma’s rounds that it was impossible for Haney to win at that point. There was no reason to do the others.

[MikeyG]

One of the ways to tell is if the fighter starts moving away before the shot lands, or if it lands on elbows. Either of those is likely a defended shot. Popping out or rotating are common and easy ways to defend a body shot without doing a block or parry. If the punch lands and then the fighter moves away, especially from point of contact, then it's probably a landed punch. That's where slowdowns help, because you can go frame by frame if you need to and see what moves first.

Ok going by this Loma probably avoided some of the body shots. And some were even blocked by elbows. The grazing shots are also a little difficult for me to assess. Is that effective punching? The low to high impact is interesting criterion but also subjective.

[MikeyG]

100 percent.

This right here!!

Just for the discussion and my curiosity. You also believe that Loma did nothing in the first half of the fight and showed up only in 2nd half? How?

[Stephankotyk]

video just proves how corrupt this sport is. Young local guy was gifted decision to market it for future fights. If Haney want to have any level of respect, he needs to do rematch, but i think he will run with his tail between legs as Salido or Lopez.
On the other note - if this sport wants any competitive future vs UFC, someone should call this sht out and bring justice, but problem is Boxing Nevada commission is source of this corruption.

[hugh grant]

Bad decisions happen. Time to move on. Only bad thing is if you scared of being robbed in future so your overly aggressive in future fights and get koed by jm m like pac was