Comments Thread For: Teddy Atlas Wants Judge Moretti To Appear Before NSAC To Explain Haney-Loma Scoring

[buddyr]

I think it's funny that Teddy Atlas has never addressed Jerry Roth scoring Moorer vs Holyfield I round 2 10/10. In that round Holyfield dropped Moorer and Moorer was winning the round. IN that scenario, it should have been a 10-9 round for Holyfied at best, not an even round. If that occurs, Holyfield would have kept his title on a draw. Atlas NEVER addressed that. So I'm not trying to hear this BS he's talking about today when he benefitted from bad scoring and kept quiet.

[hnic3128]

I think it's funny that Teddy Atlas has never addressed Jerry Roth scoring Moorer vs Holyfield I round 2 10/10. In that round Holyfield dropped Moorer and Moorer was winning the round. IN that scenario, it should have been a 10-9 round for Holyfied at best, not an even round. If that occurs, Holyfield would have kept his title on a draw. Atlas NEVER addressed that. So I'm not trying to hear this BS he's talking about today when he benefitted from bad scoring and kept quiet.

Even round is common in that scenario. Same as the tank fight last month. Normally u see 9-9 so 10-10 raised eyebrows imho but it’s the same difference even score

[PunchyPotorff]

This moretti is just an obviously corrupt ancient geezer who has no biz scoring fights ever again.

[PunchyPotorff]

I think it's funny that Teddy Atlas has never addressed Jerry Roth scoring Moorer vs Holyfield I round 2 10/10. In that round Holyfield dropped Moorer and Moorer was winning the round. IN that scenario, it should have been a 10-9 round for Holyfied at best, not an even round. If that occurs, Holyfield would have kept his title on a draw. Atlas NEVER addressed that. So I'm not trying to hear this BS he's talking about today when he benefitted from bad scoring and kept quiet.

WTF does that has to do with THIS fight? You're biased against Loma... we get it.

[champion4ever]

I think Atlas is showing his true colors here. One round is not enough to cause an uproar over. What about the other eleven rounds Moretti scored? Were they all wrong too? Loma's fans are just angry that the black man won!

[champion4ever]

It's very unfortunate that race was the underlying theme among most white and non-black boxing fans when it came to this fight. Loma's white boxing fans are just angry that the black guy won!

[TintaBoricua]

I've been inclined to believe lately that European/Canadian judges are fairer than those in the states (I'm not British, I'm Puerto Rican by the way). Luis Alberto Lopez, Chantelle Cameron in these past few months have won close decisions against fighters who were supposed to be the big draw in their hometown, and yet I don't know if necessarily could be said about something like that happening had it been in the states.

I'm not saying Haney deserved to lose as I haven't seen the fight, but a close fight is A CLOSE FIGHT. Most people who regularly watch boxing and have no agenda would be accepting to the fact that anywhere between 7-5 Haney to 7-5 Loma would be acceptable scores, Moretti deviated one point too far, but is it really worth betting your life that this is one of the worst scorecards ever? If you think so, you haven't seen some truly horrendous scorecards.

I just remembered another fight that gets overlooked for its remarkably fair scoring when they easily could've jobbed a fighter: Hopkins vs. Pascal 1...in Canada.

Pascal sweeps the first four rounds (scoring two knockdowns...1 iffy, 1 legit) and Hopkins proceeds to win the next 8 rounds handily. That fight ended up a majority draw with one judge giving it to Hopkins, but they could've easily sneaked in a wishy washy round or two in there to edge it to Pascal.

Another example that might make people roll their eyes, but hear me out...I've always been a fan of Floyd and enjoyed him making haters eat crow, so when he signed to fight McGregor in 2017...regardless what people thought of the circus it drew huge numbers. By the time Weeks stepped in to stop the fight in the 10th round, two judges had given McGregor only a single round, despite the one-sided nature of the first three. Go back and watch it to those that haven't lately, it's a one-sided affair...whether Floyd was allowing it or not. He loses those rounds but somehow they give them to him. Steve Farhood on commentary has a more accurate scorecard. INTERESTINGLY enough, Dave Moretti scored the first THREE rounds for McGregor, which is how most people had it.

Most of the time people don't know what they're looking at and they don't get second chances especially in those highly tentative, highly passive initial rounds, or the round dissolve into FIGHTER A landing more punches with not as much force and maybe the majority to the body, while the other is more inactive while landing much fewer but flashier snappy combinations. What do you do? Are you gonna' hand out 10-10 rounds repeatedly? I don't think it's a case of corruption, but frequently it CAN be incompetence as judges get up there in age (who wants to give up that gig honestly, it's the best job in the world), but more than that the four criteria established for round by round scoring is unfortunately archaic. If boxing fans truly, genuinely, deeply wanted OBJECTIVE scoring, they'd implement what they do in the Olympics where they tally up clean punches and that's it. But they can't...you know why? Because it takes away from the drama and the suspense we're all enamored by...

All to the winner by unanimous decision...
To the winner...by SPLIT decision...
To the winner...by MAJORITY decision.
A three way split...this bout is a DRAW.

It keeps the people talking...

This whole outrage is blown out of proportion. I guarantee that if Teddy Atlas were to somehow retire from being a trainer/commentator/podcaster and decided to become a boxing judge, sooner than later he's gonna' have a bad night because boxing is just that.

[DeeMoney]

No, everybody wasn't. Not anywhere near what they are doing for this fight .

Material difference being that in both those other fights, the one who was getting the alleged shaft still got the win. Gotta isolate that variable.