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  • #21
    Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

    They have to actually fight first, and Fury needs to stop running from "the middleweight" in order for that to happen. He's scuppered nearly every fight negotiation he's ever been involved in at least once. But there's no point talking to someone delusional enough to still be a Fury fan. You have fun playing with yourself in the corner while the division moves in without Fury.
    so u gonna put ur money where ur mouth is when they fight? I got 10k that says fury beats usyk when they fight. Easy money. Stop talking and take the bet since ur so sure fury sucks and usyk the great will beat him

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    • #22
      Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

      so u gonna put ur money where ur mouth is when they fight? I got 10k that says fury beats usyk when they fight. Easy money. Stop talking and take the bet since ur so sure fury sucks and usyk the great will beat him
      Get over yourself. Fury probably wins, but that doesn't mean he didn't duck the fight. It's obvious to everyone except the diehard Fury fans. The outcome of the fight that he keeps ducking was never the point of the question. What you should be asking yourself is why Fury didn't want to take 70 to the winner in the second fight. But you lack the insight to know what that means anyways. We're done here. Neither one of us is going to convince the other.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by crimsonfalcon07 View Post

        Get over yourself. Fury probably wins, but that doesn't mean he didn't duck the fight. It's obvious to everyone except the diehard Fury fans. The outcome of the fight that he keeps ducking was never the point of the question. What you should be asking yourself is why Fury didn't want to take 70 to the winner in the second fight. But you lack the insight to know what that means anyways. We're done here. Neither one of us is going to convince the other.
        Wym? U keep saying fury is ducking. But on the other hand u feel fury probably wins? Why would he duck? It doesn’t make sense lol. Any fight fury is in he expects to be the highest paid person involved. Until someone beats him he is 100% justified in that stance. Why would he take less money just to give usyk more money? Does usyk put food on the table for fury? I’m just so confused as to why u think Tyson fury is ducking effin usyk lmao. Let’s say usyk wins even..which he won’t…but let’s say usyk beats fury. The biggest fight for both is a rematch. Fury probably got 3 elite fights top level fights left in his career if that. Maybe 1 or 2. I don’t think he intends to fight much longer except for perhaps the odd massive paydays. Losing to usyk wouldn’t even really hurt his remaining career earning potential. Which makes all the “he’s ducking usyk” talk hilarious. When they fight in the late fall/early decemberish and fury demolishes the Ukrainian bum ur gonna be in here claiming fury Is ducking AJ lol

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        • #24
          Usyk took the 70/30 split and then demanded a rematch with a 70/30 split for the winner yet Fury is somehow the problem.
          Usyk continues to think he is a draw yet he's going to a purse bid against Dubois.
          Undisputed and big fights won't happen this year as fights will continue to be delayed.

          Andy priced himself out against Fury.
          Zhang is having a rematch against Joyce.
          AJ is still waiting for his handlers to tell him what to do.
          Usyk will fight Dubois or a bum.
          Wilder seems to be stuck between being inactive to cash out or retiring.
          Fury is in limbo after all his decent options have been exhausted.

          I see Fury fighting Ortiz or Franklin at some point this year. I wouldn't be surprised if he fights Hunter or Wallin but it's highly unlikely.
          Usyk will fight Dubois or #3 considering Wilder would likely duck Usyk if he is mandated to fight him.
          Nothing will happen in the HW division this year.

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          • #25
            I have always been a fan of Fury, however recently I must admit, I am starting to become frustrated.

            It appears he is content with taking easy fights and avoiding more difficult, challenging opponents - potentially due to fear of losing his undefeated record, a form of conditional avoidance.

            On the other hand, there may be more to this than meets the eye.

            It could very well be that Fury is in fact dealing with a mental illness, resurfacing after the challenges he faced which kept him away from the ring for so long.

            It is clear that there is something holding him back, and I only wish the best for him, regardless of the cause of his reluctance in entering into higher level fights.

            I want to see Fury at his very best, competing with the top contenders.

            I know in my heart of hearts, that Fury is capable of achieving greatness, with his size, strength and skill, as long as he is able to overcome whatever is stopping him from becoming the true champion he should be.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by Ghost Jab View Post
              I have always been a fan of Fury, however recently I must admit, I am starting to become frustrated.

              It appears he is content with taking easy fights and avoiding more difficult, challenging opponents - potentially due to fear of losing his undefeated record, a form of conditional avoidance.

              On the other hand, there may be more to this than meets the eye.

              It could very well be that Fury is in fact dealing with a mental illness, resurfacing after the challenges he faced which kept him away from the ring for so long.

              It is clear that there is something holding him back, and I only wish the best for him, regardless of the cause of his reluctance in entering into higher level fights.

              I want to see Fury at his very best, competing with the top contenders.

              I know in my heart of hearts, that Fury is capable of achieving greatness, with his size, strength and skill, as long as he is able to overcome whatever is stopping him from becoming the true champion he should be.
              He could be anything in the ring. But he takes the easy road and calls himself a showman for doing it.

              Incredibly people are dumb enough to buy it. Never overestimate average intelligence. It's nowhere near where you would think.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by LAchargers373 View Post

                Wym? U keep saying fury is ducking. But on the other hand u feel fury probably wins? Why would he duck? It doesn’t make sense lol. Any fight fury is in he expects to be the highest paid person involved. Until someone beats him he is 100% justified in that stance. Why would he take less money just to give usyk more money?
                Should be blatantly obvious to anyone not drinking the Kool aid. I've written extensively on this. If this were anyone else you'd be screaming duck from the hills.

                He started out by demanding so much money that even if Usyk fought for free, even the Saudis couldn't afford it. That's THE classic duck move.

                What's the next one? Demanding an unreasonable split.

                Usyk called his bluff and accepted 70/30.

                Then Fury pitched a fit about the rematch clause that his own side put in. And for what? He wanted 50/50.

                Usyk said 70/30 to the winner. If Fury is so sure he'll beat the "middleweight", he'd get 70 in both fights, and Usyk would only get 30 in both fights. The only way 50/50 is better for Fury is if he thinks he loses the first fight. He's literally making a fit because he's thinking he'll lose, and over a clause that his own team put in. His team got caught lying about almost everything too. Now he's priced himself out of several more opponents. How much more obvious does it need to get for you???

                If it wasn't one thing, it would have been ring size. Then gloves. Then brand of water, or observers in the dressing room, or some other BS. The duck is ALWAYS the one making all the demands, and it's been clear from the start where the demands have come from. And, in EVERY fight since he came back, the demands have been coming from Fury.

                There's a (lot of) reason(s) that the vast majority of the boxing world is calling it a duck from Fury. If you can't see it, that's literally your own problem. Nobody can help you.

                If Fury is supposed to be making more money, why did he insist on MORE money to the loser of the first fight? He's saying that Usyk is worth only 30 as the undefeated unified champion, but will be worth 50 as a defeated contender? You got the blinders on BAD if you don't understand that. If he can't even take a risk on himself to win and guarantee himself a second bigger payday, he's ducking.

                That is very likely because he's still battling his mental illness, but the FACT is that he doesn't believe in himself to win against Usyk and he's thrown up so many demands that not only Usyk, but NONE of the top guys can fight him.
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