Is Wldamir Klitschko really better than Wilder ?

[hugh grant]

Wlad fought better people than wilder. H2h who knows what would happen. Both could win

[M312]

How would Wilder even land past Wlads jab?

His footwork and balance is just awful, would be constantly offset before the inevitable right hand.

Wlad stopped engaging in his prime like he did v Sanders. Would just be a safety first jab fest.

[Silence]

Wilder would never lose to Puritty, Sanders, Brewster.... and AJ.

Fury is Fury. He is from another dimension.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wilder is Charles Martin level guy with a little more luck in his life.

[M312]

Wilder would never lose to Puritty, Sanders, Brewster.... and AJ.

Fury is Fury. He is from another dimension.

Wladimir would never lose to John McDermott or Otto Wallin... And duck Andy Ruiz.


What's the point?

[JakeTheBoxer]

Wladimir would never lose to John McDermott or Otto Wallin... And duck Andy Ruiz.


What's the point?

I also find it hard to believe Klitschko would ever ever duck a cruiserweight.

[Willow The Wisp]

Wilder would never lose to Puritty, Sanders, Brewster.... and AJ.

Fury is Fury. He is from another dimension.

This is the best answer. Wladimir, and to a far, far less extent, Vitali presided over a fairly weak division. During his tenure there were no Tyson Furys, Deontay Wilders, or even an Usyk, Ruiz, Ortiz or Joshua around, and Wladimir still managed to get laid out more than once. Talk like "Wladimir had equivalent power to Wilder" and "Wilder has no footwork" are the thoughts of fans, not experts. Talk like "Wilder is Charles Martin level" is just mindless trolling. Wladimir is slightly "greater" by my measure, but Wilder sleeps him H2H.

[daggum]

strange how people talk about wilder as if he was some king of the division when a guy like andy ruiz jr has a resume that blows him away. wilder cleaned out the division if you consider a 40 year ortiz the division lol. he couldnt beat the best, refused to fight the best, and even refuses to fight 2nd tier guys cept for old ortiz. fantasy power though!

[Willow The Wisp]

strange how people talk about wilder as if he was some king of the division when a guy like andy ruiz jr has a resume that blows him away. wilder cleaned out the division if you consider a 40 year ortiz the division lol. he couldnt beat the best, refused to fight the best, and even refuses to fight 2nd tier guys cept for old ortiz. fantasy power though!

I disagree! You can slice with a razor any difference between the total resumes of Fury, Wilder, Joshua; with those of Ruiz, Usyk & Ortiz just behind them. THAT is why there remains unfinished business in the division. Tonnes of unfinished business to be done before this generation gives way to the next, as they always do.

They did it so much more fearlessly in, say; the 1970s, when Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Norton, Quarry, Lyle, Shavers Young and Bugner all had a good go at each other and Ali wound up as the best.

In this generation, an excellent one to be certain; Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder have stepped up thrice in an effort to determine a single claim to the crown, and after many knockdowns and plenty of drama, they delivered a result.

Joshua, Ruiz and Usyk haven't fought quite to the same level (Sitting champion vs. Sitting champion), as of yet.

And time's-a-wastin'.

The argument that Wilder hasn't fought the same quality as Joshua has been entirely disproven.

[Arthur Daley]

They’ve sparred prior and Wilder was embarrassed and put on the canvas several times.