Who ranks higher all time, Klitschko's or Lewis?

[Яша]

you claim in big bold capitals that Lewis was past his prime at 37yrs when he was fortunate against Vitali yet claim that his resume is brilliant and even list Tyson who was a decade past his best who had been hammered by Buster Douglas 11yrs previous who had been hammered by Holyfield 6yrs previous who would lose to Danny Williams and Kevin McBride in quicker time than it took Lewis to beat him only months after losing to Lewis, you list Holyfield who was years past his best and who was `robbed` of the decision against Lewis in their 2nd fight, you also list as Lewis great victories

Tua - Fattest man to ever fight for the title
Morrison - HIV positive and on the downslide
Mercer - Robbed of the verdict against Lewis
Ruddock - `Damaged Goods` after 2 brutal beatings from Tyson
Golota - sedated in dressing room with tranquilisers after panic attack
Grant - ex basketballer hand-picked by Lewis so as to avoid all top contenders..

a very strong case can be made for Vitali simply because of his showing against Lewis and the fortunate ending in Lewis favour even tho the cut was caused by a Lewis headbutt

I never said Tyson and Holyfield where prime when Lewis beat them, and btw Lewis was robbed in their first fight. Holyfield weren't that past his prime anway. I do beleive even a past prime Tyson and Holyfield is much much better than sam peter and chris arreolla two obese bums.

Who has Vitali beaten then?

sam peter and arreolla - two fat bums that couldnt box for ****
juan carlos gomez - old and a former cruiserweight
herbie hide - glass jawed
danny williams

compare to Lewis

PRIME Vitali Klitschko(Lewis was past prime yet he still beat him)
Mike Tyson(shot but still better than the likes of arreolla and peter)
Evander Holyfield(slightly past prime but stil a very good opponent)
David Tua
Ray Mercer(it was a close fight but he wasn't robbed, just because a fight was close doesnt mean it was a robbery)
Michael Grant - who else was he supposed to fight byrd, ruiz? if he fought those two people would be saying he ducked Grant.
Golota - he got blasted by Lewis thats a fact, enough with the excuses


Lennox Lewis resume tops V.K's resume by FAR and you know it, its ridicilous to say otherwise. expeccially due to the fact that an OLD, PAST PRIME Lewis made Vitalis face look like he had been in a war and those where by legal punches not some made-up bull**** headbutts like you klitschko nuthuggers claim.

and btw i won't continue this arguement with you much more, you are to biased and hateful against lewis to have a decent normal argument with. Vitali is greater than Lewis and has a better resume? lmfao, take a look at the poll and see whos right.

[KittenFlaps]

Lennox does so far, but Wlad aint done fighting yet.

Here's an interesting chart showing just how dominant each HW champ has been.

[sonnyboyx2]

I never said Tyson and Holyfield where prime when Lewis beat them, and btw Lewis was robbed in their first fight. Holyfield weren't that past his prime anway. I do beleive even a past prime Tyson and Holyfield is much much better than sam peter and chris arreolla two obese bums.

Who has Vitali beaten then?

sam peter and arreolla - two fat bums that couldnt box for ****
juan carlos gomez - old and a former cruiserweight
herbie hide - glass jawed
danny williams

compare to Lewis

PRIME Vitali Klitschko(Lewis was past prime yet he still beat him)
Mike Tyson(shot but still better than the likes of arreolla and peter)
Evander Holyfield(slightly past prime but stil a very good opponent)
David Tua
Ray Mercer(it was a close fight but he wasn't robbed, just because a fight was close doesnt mean it was a robbery)
Michael Grant - who else was he supposed to fight byrd, ruiz? if he fought those two people would be saying he ducked Grant.
Golota - he got blasted by Lewis thats a fact, enough with the excuses


Lennox Lewis resume tops V.K's resume by FAR and you know it, its ridicilous to say otherwise. expeccially due to the fact that an OLD, PAST PRIME Lewis made Vitalis face look like he had been in a war and those where by legal punches not some made-up bull**** headbutts like you klitschko nuthuggers claim.

and btw i won't continue this arguement with you much more, you are to biased and hateful against lewis to have a decent normal argument with. Vitali is greater than Lewis and has a better resume? lmfao, take a look at the poll and see whos right.

1/ the poll is imaterial
2/ Golota was tranquilized - and the same Golota was `bombed-out by old Tyson and bombed out by Lamon Brewster
3/. Lewis should have fought Ruiz & Byrd both who beat Holyfield far more convincingly than Lewis did - people said Oscar should not be fighting Pacman BUT he did, people said Floyd should not be fighting JMM but he did. Lewis should have fought the men who was No1 contenders and who was at the top of their game, not some ex basketballer who had run up a string of victories against tomato cans

you trash Danny Williams but did Williams not KO old Tyson just like Lewis KOd old Tyson?

you ask who did Vitali Klitschko beat - Vitali was on the verge of beating Lennox Lewis, Vitali did not want the fight stopped, the only people wanting the fight stopped was Lewis and Emmanuel Stewart - Vitali was robbed no matter which way you look at it.

4/ resumes are imaterial, Rocky Marciano has the best resume in boxing history but no fans claim him to be the greatest of all time

The bottom line is that Lennox Lewis was very fortunate to gain a victory over Vitali Klitschko, Lewis was out on his feet and there was not another 3 minutes left in him, he was fortunate and now with Vitali being the dominant heavyweight in the world its plain to everyone that Vitali would beat any version of Lennox Lewis

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1/ the poll is imaterial
2/ Golota was tranquilized - and the same Golota was `bombed-out by old Tyson and bombed out by Lamon Brewster
3/. Lewis should have fought Ruiz & Byrd both who beat Holyfield far more convincingly than Lewis did - people said Oscar should not be fighting Pacman BUT he did, people said Floyd should not be fighting JMM but he did. Lewis should have fought the men who was No1 contenders and who was at the top of their game, not some ex basketballer who had run up a string of victories against tomato cans

you trash Danny Williams but did Williams not KO old Tyson just like Lewis KOd old Tyson?

you ask who did Vitali Klitschko beat - Vitali was on the verge of beating Lennox Lewis, Vitali did not want the fight stopped, the only people wanting the fight stopped was Lewis and Emmanuel Stewart - Vitali was robbed no matter which way you look at it.

4/ resumes are imaterial, Rocky Marciano has the best resume in boxing history but no fans claim him to be the greatest of all time

The bottom line is that Lennox Lewis was very fortunate to gain a victory over Vitali Klitschko, Lewis was out on his feet and there was not another 3 minutes left in him, he was fortunate and now with Vitali being the dominant heavyweight in the world its plain to everyone that Vitali would beat any version of Lennox Lewis

Dude, you need to get your timelines right. Lewis should've fought Ruiz & Byrd because they both beat Holyfield?

LOL @ Lennox being Miss Cleo.

[street bully]

Is this a serious question?

[Motofan]

Lewis is a top 10 all time heavyweight. Anyone who doesnt have him at the top of this list..........

[Яша]

1/ the poll is imaterial
2/ Golota was tranquilized - and the same Golota was `bombed-out by old Tyson and bombed out by Lamon Brewster
3/. Lewis should have fought Ruiz & Byrd both who beat Holyfield far more convincingly than Lewis did - people said Oscar should not be fighting Pacman BUT he did, people said Floyd should not be fighting JMM but he did. Lewis should have fought the men who was No1 contenders and who was at the top of their game, not some ex basketballer who had run up a string of victories against tomato cans

you trash Danny Williams but did Williams not KO old Tyson just like Lewis KOd old Tyson?

you ask who did Vitali Klitschko beat - Vitali was on the verge of beating Lennox Lewis, Vitali did not want the fight stopped, the only people wanting the fight stopped was Lewis and Emmanuel Stewart - Vitali was robbed no matter which way you look at it.

4/ resumes are imaterial, Rocky Marciano has the best resume in boxing history but no fans claim him to be the greatest of all time

The bottom line is that Lennox Lewis was very fortunate to gain a victory over Vitali Klitschko, Lewis was out on his feet and there was not another 3 minutes left in him, he was fortunate and now with Vitali being the dominant heavyweight in the world its plain to everyone that Vitali would beat any version of Lennox Lewis

you are comparing the holyfield that lost to Lewis to the one that lost to ruiz and byrd? and the tyson that lost against lewis to the one that lsot to williams? your creds go right out the window...

holyfield was coming of victorys over Tysonx2 and michael moorer...

the thing with you is that you seem to think you are right even though almost everybody disagrees with you(look at poll). you arent any more knowledgable in boxing than any of us really.

and again if Vitali couldn't even beat an OLD, PAST PRIME, out of shape Lewis what makes you think he can beat a PRIME Lewis?

and btw where do you have Lewis in your atg heavyweight rankings? and where do you have vitali and wladimir klitschko?

[Яша]

Is this a serious question?

offcourse it is, i personally dont even think it is close. Lewis is the best of the three. but you see many klitschko fans and lewis haters like sonnyboy here thinks the klitschkos are better than lewis hahahahahah

[Trenchant]

IMO, the Briggs who fought Lewis would KO Vitali. Lewis was not as much over the hill against Vitali as he was OUT OF SHAPE! Lewis was out of shape. Vitali is good but unfortunately has no good opposition to fight. I think an in shape Jameel McCline "and younger" could be a good fight for Vitali.

[Mersey]

1/ the poll is imaterial
2/ Golota was tranquilized - and the same Golota was `bombed-out by old Tyson and bombed out by Lamon Brewster
3/. Lewis should have fought Ruiz & Byrd both who beat Holyfield far more convincingly than Lewis did - people said Oscar should not be fighting Pacman BUT he did, people said Floyd should not be fighting JMM but he did. Lewis should have fought the men who was No1 contenders and who was at the top of their game, not some ex basketballer who had run up a string of victories against tomato cans

you trash Danny Williams but did Williams not KO old Tyson just like Lewis KOd old Tyson?

you ask who did Vitali Klitschko beat - Vitali was on the verge of beating Lennox Lewis, Vitali did not want the fight stopped, the only people wanting the fight stopped was Lewis and Emmanuel Stewart - Vitali was robbed no matter which way you look at it.

4/ resumes are imaterial, Rocky Marciano has the best resume in boxing history but no fans claim him to be the greatest of all time

The bottom line is that Lennox Lewis was very fortunate to gain a victory over Vitali Klitschko, Lewis was out on his feet and there was not another 3 minutes left in him, he was fortunate and now with Vitali being the dominant heavyweight in the world its plain to everyone that Vitali would beat any version of Lennox Lewis

Ahh **** not this again.