Canelo is outside his prime but why was he expected to stop Ryder?

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  • Mammoth
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    Canelo is outside his prime but why was he expected to stop Ryder?

    I know Ryder was stopped by Blackwell (a fight I've never seen) but what about Ryder ever told us he didn't have a good chin? He always seemed like a tough mfer to me.
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    Agreed, this fight went almost exactly as I suspected. Ryder landed a few more clean shots in the 2nd half than I thought he might and Canelo was a bit more active early to avoid giving away some rounds, but other than that it pretty much went as expected.

    Canelo is at an interesting crossroads now though. All the "interesting" fights out there for him that will sell well, are dangerous. Not a lot of safe choices out there. While Canelo is uber competitive, I don't get the feeling he will stick around long after he starts fading. He's still young, but he's had a ton of fights and rounds, so he's probably closer to the end of the line than it appears. The combination of those factors make me think Canelo won't be around much longer.

    Honestly, I'd probably put the over/under at 5 more fights for him. I think once he can't beat the top guys anymore he'll **** off to Cali and play golf every day, Michael Jordan style

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #3
      Originally posted by Mammoth
      I know Ryder was stopped by Blackwell (a fight I've never seen) but what about Ryder ever told us he didn't have a good chin? He always seemed like a tough mfer to me.
      It's not about Ryder.

      Remember, Canelo convinced Tony Weeks to rush in and stop Angulo, also durable, just off of basic punches landed.

      It's inconsistent: certain refs are too trigger happy to stop fights where others let guys get pummeled.

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      • Jdasilva2012
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        Bivol damaged Canelo. Fighting Benavidez would be suicide let alone Bivol rematch.

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        • El Más Loco
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          Canelo is expected to stop Ryder because Ryder has never done anything of note. Add to the fact they put this fight behind 2 pay walls.......in his home town.

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            #6
            Originally posted by Mammoth
            I know Ryder was stopped by Blackwell (a fight I've never seen) but what about Ryder ever told us he didn't have a good chin? He always seemed like a tough mfer to me.
            Blackwell faced a Ryder physicality compromised fighting in a weight class he no longer belonged.

            Ryder is a very good, very tough fighter. I also expected the fight to do pretty much as it did.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Mammoth
              I know Ryder was stopped by Blackwell (a fight I've never seen) but what about Ryder ever told us he didn't have a good chin? He always seemed like a tough mfer to me.
              Ryder is tough

              I'll never know how he managed to lose to Jack Arnfield and got stopped by Nick Blackwell. Those 2 fights seem really at odds with the rest of his career. I know at some points during his pro career he was working in events security, even at boxing events, so maybe there was times he couldn't fully dedicate himself to train. He did also struggle at the weight.

              His other losses include 2 bad robberies v Callum Smith and Rocky Fielding

              and 2 legit losses v Canelo and Billy Joe Saunders, which there's no shame in at all.

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              • Mammoth
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                #8
                Originally posted by Jdasilva2012
                Bivol damaged Canelo. Fighting Benavidez would be suicide let alone Bivol rematch.
                Bivol caused Canelo to have even worse stamina?

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                • JakeTheBoxer
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                  There is no problem with Canelo going 12 rounds with Ryder.

                  The problem is, Canelo gassed out again and looked bad in the last 4 rounds.

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                  • AKAcronym
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                    How weird it is to read that Canelo is or might be past his prime. Just barely over a year ago, people had the belief he was going to beat damn near anyone up to whatever weight class. It's amazing how much a year can change things.
                    Last edited by AKAcronym; 05-07-2023, 01:18 AM.

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