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  • Str8.2.Da.Point
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    #81
    Undisputed in 3 divisions puts anyone in the top 5 discussion..... Y'all sound weird trying to hate on a man that doesn't even know you exist. Crawford's resume isn't full of sexy names, but he did beat other world champions.... and a few of them were undefeated going into the fight.....

    It's weird how a bunch of people who never stepped in the ring themselves act like their opinion is more important that those directly connected to the sport and/or former boxers..... Crawford is still the ONLY active fighter to get his fist engraved at the Hall of Fame ceremony.... If he is getting that type of respect for his peers and other greats.....Who are we to suggest he is not worthy of praise.......

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    • Bronx2245
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      #82
      Originally posted by Sid-Knee

      Really? You've never studied the past fighters? You've never heard the name Lou Ambers mentioned before? Barney Ross? Fritzie Zivic? Surely you've heard of Heavyweight champion James J Corbett?
      Nope. I've never reached back that far. Started watching boxing in the Ali era. Didn't really know what I was watching until the 1976 Olympics!.

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      • Sid-Knee
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        #83
        Originally posted by Bronx2245
        Nope. I've never reached back that far. Started watching boxing in the Ali era. Didn't really know what I was watching until the 1976 Olympics!.
        You've never even seen anyone mention their names on forums before?

        Look into them, they're proper ATG's. Their resumes are crazy. Not like the shlt you get today. Todays world would be considered offensive to them.

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        • Sid-Knee
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          #84
          Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

          People like you are willing to claim Crawford hasn't proved himself in this division but unwilling to point out the obvious fact that he was being black balled the moment he got in the division.

          Crawford on top of his world titles he's won during his career......he's also a 2x LINEAL CHAMPION. All these fake boxing fans don't know what that means apparently.

          And my question is.....who in the division has "proved" themself to be the top guy?.....Spence?.....He continues to fight names who lost to other names on his way to create a legacy. Porter and Danny both failed to take the WBC title from Thurman.....but ended up fighting each other for that same title after Thurman was stripped of it for inactivity. Spence has openly said that he has zero interest in a fight vs Thurman for 4 years now......yet he was willing to fight 2 individuals who lost to him....then fought Ugas....an individual who lost to Porter and was GIVEN his title after Manny was stripped of it. I guess we can give Ugas props for beating that same 42 year old Manny after being out of the ring for 2 years due to his political duties.

          At the end of the day.....regardless of everyone's emotions on Crawford or Spence.....what BoMac said is 100% true..... If Crawford who already has Undisputed on his resume, is able to get passed Spence to become Undisputed in a 2nd division, then follows that up with beating Charlo to become Undisputed in a 3rd division......Top 5 p4p all time.....there isn't an argument to leave him out........Again.....he would have to get that done though.
          Porter not only beat Thurman when they fought, but he beat Spence too. He just wasn't going to get the decision in a close fight. Haymon saw Thurman and Spence as more profitable names after Porter lost to Brook. But before that, he was getting the biggest push and hype behind him.

          Ugas beat Porter, but again, Haymon didn't want him to walk away with the victory. All this isn't sport. It's a con.

          As for calling Crawford top 5 all time if he beats Spence and Charlo, i have to call insanity here. Pure, deranged insanity. I mean, if i presented 5 names from recent era's, which name would you remove to put Crawford in?

          Lennox Lewis.
          Bernard Hopkins.
          Manny Pacquiao.
          Roberto Duran.
          Sugar Ray Leonard.

          There's plenty more way above Crawford, but you get the idea. So, who would you have Crawford over? I need to see someone actually be specific and actually make an argument. It may go down as the most extreme madness i've ever seen written on a forum. And i've seen the most twisted of insanity in my time.

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          • Str8.2.Da.Point
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            #85
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee

            Porter not only beat Thurman when they fought, but he beat Spence too. He just wasn't going to get the decision in a close fight. Haymon saw Thurman and Spence as more profitable names after Porter lost to Brook. But before that, he was getting the biggest push and hype behind him.

            Ugas beat Porter, but again, Haymon didn't want him to walk away with the victory. All this isn't sport. It's a con.

            As for calling Crawford top 5 all time if he beats Spence and Charlo, i have to call insanity here. Pure, deranged insanity. I mean, if i presented 5 names from recent era's, which name would you remove to put Crawford in?

            Lennox Lewis.
            Bernard Hopkins.
            Manny Pacquiao.
            Roberto Duran.
            Sugar Ray Leonard.

            There's plenty more way above Crawford, but you get the idea. So, who would you have Crawford over? I need to see someone actually be specific and actually make an argument. It may go down as the most extreme madness i've ever seen written on a forum. And i've seen the most twisted of insanity in my time.
            Get out your emotions..... Porter LOST to Thurman... it's documented..... Porter LOST to Spence.... It's documented. No one gives 2 ****s about how YOU felt the decision should have went, because at this moment, we aren't talking about opinions, we are discussing what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

            Haymon had nothing to do with Spence and Thurman not fighting other than the fact that after Spence got his title, he stated he did not want to fight Thurman. Had no interest in the match up. There wasn't a bigger fight to be made in the division outside of Manny in 2017/18 for Spence other than Thurman.... stop the bull****.

            You came up with mfers who aren't top 5 names as if just because they are legends then that make them top 5...... If Crawford was to become 3x undisputed.....the ONLY name on that list that can be argued as a better career is Manny Pacquiao being that he gain world titles in 8 different divisions. TF are you talking about.... Lewis, BHop, Duran, even Sugar......what in their career have they done that's greater than becoming UNDISPUTED in 3 different divisions.......Duran is one of my favorite fighters all time, but lets be honest....in 120 fights......was he ever considered the greatest during his career?........

            You seem like a person who simply watches highlights rather than following the actual sport.......You could have come up with better names for your argument than Lennox, BHop, & Duran if we are talking about accomplishments.......

            Trying to make it seem like what is said is "insanity"....then to rebuttal with such an ignorant example is laughable......

            You should spend more time trying to have an actual boxing exchange (conversation) rather than wasting your energy or belittling others' opinions because you don't agree with it.... It would be easier for others to take your words seriously.

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              #86
              I personally in this modern era, under the day before weigh in rule 'I don't rate fighters who win multiple titles, while moving up through the weight divisions very highly compared to past fighters feats of achievement'.

              Terrence Crawford going back in history, under the same day weigh in rule? Would of been most likely a 1 weight fighter 'Crawford would not of jumped from 140-147 or welter weight to Middle Weight'.

              I just think within this modern era, people get carried away with lower weight division fighters 'When in reality, most of them are weight draining themselves to be the big man on fight night'.

              It just creates somewhat of a illusion, on their true level of abilities in comparison to past fighters.

              Terrence Crawford is a great fighter, but if he was active fighter during the 70's, he is going to have a difficult time duplicating his achievements during that era.

              Note: Modern day lower class fighters are competing under conditions that really have never existed before 'I honestly head to head, do not compare most modern day fighters to past fighters. Because quite simply they are fighting and training in completely different environments and even rules etc.



              Last edited by PRINCEKOOL; 05-05-2023, 09:26 PM.

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              • Sid-Knee
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                #87
                Originally posted by Str8.2.Da.Point

                Get out your emotions..... Porter LOST to Thurman... it's documented..... Porter LOST to Spence.... It's documented. No one gives 2 ****s about how YOU felt the decision should have went, because at this moment, we aren't talking about opinions, we are discussing what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

                Haymon had nothing to do with Spence and Thurman not fighting other than the fact that after Spence got his title, he stated he did not want to fight Thurman. Had no interest in the match up. There wasn't a bigger fight to be made in the division outside of Manny in 2017/18 for Spence other than Thurman.... stop the bull****.

                You came up with mfers who aren't top 5 names as if just because they are legends then that make them top 5...... If Crawford was to become 3x undisputed.....the ONLY name on that list that can be argued as a better career is Manny Pacquiao being that he gain world titles in 8 different divisions. TF are you talking about.... Lewis, BHop, Duran, even Sugar......what in their career have they done that's greater than becoming UNDISPUTED in 3 different divisions.......Duran is one of my favorite fighters all time, but lets be honest....in 120 fights......was he ever considered the greatest during his career?........

                You seem like a person who simply watches highlights rather than following the actual sport.......You could have come up with better names for your argument than Lennox, BHop, & Duran if we are talking about accomplishments.......

                Trying to make it seem like what is said is "insanity"....then to rebuttal with such an ignorant example is laughable......

                You should spend more time trying to have an actual boxing exchange (conversation) rather than wasting your energy or belittling others' opinions because you don't agree with it.... It would be easier for others to take your words seriously.
                You believe there can't be any robberies? That it's a fact every time they come back with their cards? It isn't their opinion? Lewis/Holyfield was in fact a draw, not a grotesque robbery?

                I don't go around accepting robberies. That would be a very strange thing to do. Not even you would accept it if Crawford clearly won a fight only to be ripped off. Then you'd be showing hypocrisy. But i expect that from someone who has written the laughable stench you've written here. But thanks for doing so. I just needed someone to show this level of insanity and see if they felt like an imbecile whilst doing so or not.

                You believe i wrote an opinion on Spence and Thurman not fighting? Where did this happen?

                I never once said they were top 5. I just listed fighters vastly superior to Crawford and wanted to see who you would put him over. Again, you've seen something that doesn't exist. But it's not surprising considering the fantasy world you inhabit. But to do so over 4 of the 5 is a thing of beauty to witness.

                Yes, silly me, what did Lewis, Duran, Leonard and Hopkins do to be greater than a fighter who would have wins over Postal, Spence, Porter and Charlo. 4 killer names so great that the mass of great wins between these fighters would pale into insignificance.

                You read my post and came to the conclusion that i only watch highlights? Could you be specific on what part had you delude yourself with this ignorant and laughable insanity, please?

                If you're going to moralize, don't you think it's best to take your own advice and not tell me to "Cut the bullshlt"? or "Get out of my emotions"? Maybe telling me i come across as someone who "Watches highlights" and not full fights even though i have a vast collection of fights in my library from throughout history, wouldn't to you, be insulting? Maybe saying to someone that a fat idiot like Bomac is the all knowing about boxing and couldn't possibly come out with insanity so don't ever doubt him. He knows more than you. If he speaks, you listen. How about, no. How about i laugh at the pair of you for being this utterly f3cking deranged to ever come out with the shlt you two are speaking.

                As for arguing about who is greater between the likes of Lewis, Duran and Crawford. I couldn't possibly do so. It's a topic that would be laughed at in reality. Only those detached from it would have such a ridiculous discussion about it. It's f3cking preposterous in it's most extreme. Therefore, i can't have this discussion with you. Sorry. I exist in reality, not the world you and the likes of Bomac are from.

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                • Dela
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                  #88
                  Bud can and should beat these two knuckleheads before the year 2026 then hang up the mitts

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                    #89
                    How does the saying go when something incredible should happen ?
                    We are more likely to see Santa Clause ****ing the Tooth Fairy with a unicorn's horn then see Dud fight a live opponent

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                    • Bronx2245
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee

                      You've never even seen anyone mention their names on forums before?

                      Look into them, they're proper ATG's. Their resumes are crazy. Not like the shlt you get today. Todays world would be considered offensive to them.
                      I've always said that Basketball and Boxing, are the 2 sports that I believe the "Old School" is better than the "New School!"

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